±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 727
Total: 727
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Your Account
16: Your Account
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: News
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Photo Gallery
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Photo Gallery
30: Photo Gallery
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Your Account
35: Photo Gallery
36: Home
37: News
38: Community Forums
39: Your Account
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Downloads
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Statistics
56: News
57: Photo Gallery
58: Photo Gallery
59: CPGlang
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Photo Gallery
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Member Screenshots
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Photo Gallery
69: Your Account
70: Photo Gallery
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Your Account
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: CPGlang
92: News
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: News Archive
97: News Archive
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Photo Gallery
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Downloads
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Photo Gallery
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Downloads
139: News
140: News
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: News
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Downloads
156: Downloads
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: News Archive
170: CPGlang
171: Downloads
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Your Account
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Community Forums
195: Home
196: CPGlang
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Photo Gallery
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Statistics
214: Downloads
215: Downloads
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: Photo Gallery
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Photo Gallery
229: Your Account
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Downloads
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: CPGlang
240: Home
241: Downloads
242: Downloads
243: Photo Gallery
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: News
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Downloads
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Downloads
255: Community Forums
256: Photo Gallery
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Downloads
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Statistics
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Photo Gallery
271: News Archive
272: Member Screenshots
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: News
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Downloads
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Downloads
288: Community Forums
289: Your Account
290: Photo Gallery
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: LinkToUs
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: CPGlang
302: Your Account
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: News Archive
309: Community Forums
310: Downloads
311: Home
312: Downloads
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Downloads
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Your Account
319: Community Forums
320: Downloads
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Downloads
327: Home
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Home
333: Member Screenshots
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Photo Gallery
338: Downloads
339: Community Forums
340: Your Account
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Photo Gallery
344: Community Forums
345: Photo Gallery
346: Member Screenshots
347: Photo Gallery
348: Photo Gallery
349: News
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Home
356: Home
357: Downloads
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Photo Gallery
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Photo Gallery
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Photo Gallery
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Home
380: Photo Gallery
381: Home
382: Home
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Home
386: Photo Gallery
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Home
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Downloads
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Photo Gallery
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Photo Gallery
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Photo Gallery
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Community Forums
417: CPGlang
418: Community Forums
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Home
424: Photo Gallery
425: News
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Photo Gallery
435: Home
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Downloads
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Photo Gallery
444: News Archive
445: Photo Gallery
446: News
447: Downloads
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Home
451: Photo Gallery
452: Photo Gallery
453: Home
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Photo Gallery
460: Your Account
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Home
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Downloads
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Photo Gallery
478: Home
479: Community Forums
480: Downloads
481: Photo Gallery
482: Community Forums
483: Downloads
484: Photo Gallery
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Photo Gallery
488: Home
489: Photo Gallery
490: Photo Gallery
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Downloads
496: Photo Gallery
497: Community Forums
498: Statistics
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Downloads
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Photo Gallery
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: News Archive
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Downloads
522: Photo Gallery
523: Photo Gallery
524: Your Account
525: Your Account
526: Photo Gallery
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: CPGlang
531: Community Forums
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: CPGlang
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Downloads
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Downloads
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Downloads
556: Downloads
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Statistics
560: Home
561: CPGlang
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Downloads
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Downloads
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: Downloads
574: Photo Gallery
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Home
578: Downloads
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Photo Gallery
584: Home
585: Home
586: Photo Gallery
587: Community Forums
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Photo Gallery
591: Photo Gallery
592: Community Forums
593: Member Screenshots
594: Photo Gallery
595: Home
596: Photo Gallery
597: Downloads
598: Community Forums
599: Photo Gallery
600: Downloads
601: Community Forums
602: Member Screenshots
603: Community Forums
604: Photo Gallery
605: Home
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Photo Gallery
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Downloads
620: Downloads
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Photo Gallery
626: Downloads
627: Photo Gallery
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Downloads
632: Community Forums
633: Downloads
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Downloads
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Home
649: Community Forums
650: Home
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: CPGlang
654: Community Forums
655: Statistics
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Photo Gallery
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Photo Gallery
662: Community Forums
663: Downloads
664: Community Forums
665: Photo Gallery
666: Home
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: CPGlang
670: Photo Gallery
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Home
674: Home
675: Community Forums
676: Photo Gallery
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Home
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Downloads
684: Photo Gallery
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Your Account
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Downloads
693: Photo Gallery
694: Community Forums
695: Home
696: Home
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Photo Gallery
700: Community Forums
701: Member Screenshots
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Downloads
705: Photo Gallery
706: Home
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Downloads
710: Photo Gallery
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Downloads
715: Your Account
716: Photo Gallery
717: Community Forums
718: CPGlang
719: Community Forums
720: Home
721: Photo Gallery
722: Community Forums
723: Community Forums
724: Downloads
725: Photo Gallery
726: Community Forums
727: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
swamp thing
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
blair
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 87

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:22 am
Post subject: swamp thing

Gents,
Not sure if this was posted before but here ya all go again
Swamp recovery of a T34(?) with german markings

www.dusky.sk/halbot/?id=2863
Back to top
View user's profile
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:06 am
Post subject: Re: swamp thing

Ha! I just had that emailed to me last night...........I was going to post it here later. Cool

This is a translation of the text that came with the image...........

Here's the full story:



> 14 September 2000, a Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake near Johvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it’s a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.
>
> From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the north-eastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank’s exterior.) On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.
>
> At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armored vehicle at the lake’s bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club ‘Otsing’. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.
>
> Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov’s leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company’s Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.
>
> The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the active force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-tonne dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.
>
> After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a trophy tank, that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
>
> This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum, that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv.


Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:45 pm
Post subject: Re: swamp thing

I've seen this tank stored outside in the quoted museum.. here is a pic :



I really, really hope that it is currently stored indoors and that the original markings will be kept as they were found.. remember what's happening to the StuG in Saratov..

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: swamp thing

Here are some news of the tank :

http://www.diving.ee/articles/art035.html

The latest news about T-34.
Have successfully started the diesel engine not replacing any spare part.
Have replaced only bearings on skating rolls.
Assembly of the tank will soon come to the end and it will be ready to trial runs.
It is planned in the following season to carry on tourists and to show it as a working exhibit of our museum.

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:27 am
Post subject: Re: swamp thing

... to rent the company’s Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs. ...

Don't know much about heavy equipment, but that seems like an incredibly long time without failure.

On the second link there is a section of 1:50,000 scale topographic map. Detailed and articulate in proper proportions for such a small and congested area. I wonder what photogrammetry technology the Germans were using in WWII (and how much coverage they published)?
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum