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Help in tank ID
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:57 pm
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First of all I want to say hi to this forum, I am a WW2 tanks fan from Spain.

I found this pic in internet and dont know what kind of tank it is. Probably it is a german or soviet T70 variant:
It%20is%20the%20same%20model%20as%20this%20one%20placed%20in%20the%20Stalin%20Line%20Museum,%20may%20be%20even%20it%20is%20the%20same%20tank?.

Grettings.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:19 pm
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Welcome

The turret looks like a mocked up dummy to me. The vision ports appear solid, there is no clearance in the gun mantlet for elevation and at least one view show a suspicious amount of empty space between turret and hull. My impression is that the turret is made of wood or some combination of that and sheet metals. Maybe a "movie tank"?

I have no idea what the hull is from, but someone will probably be along soon with some good ideas.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:03 pm
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Very interesting your point about a "movie tank" or a renactment scenery. I have seen some like this or similar, used so in Stalin Line:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:45 am
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That is an AT-P Artillery Tractor and Prime Mover from Soviet Union

en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/102973
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:03 am
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I saw this vehicle on another forum and Bialy-r is absolutely right.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:55 am
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Thank you very much for your help.

Here I just found they are agree with your suspects also:

www.militaryphotos.net...nks/page53

Even it isnt a WWII tank...

Grettings, and great forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:35 am
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So the turret is fake?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:04 am
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Oh completely!
As P-O points out, there's no way to alter the "gun's" angle of elevation, solid "vision ports" and the thickness of the material that forms the commander's cupola looks like it wouldn't stop a good punch, let alone an a/t round.
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- Pzkpfw-e
Oh completely!
As P-O points out..


Darn that P-O....he's stealing my soul! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:56 pm
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oooops, For P-O, substitute Doug Kibbey (It's that smiley that distracted me!)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:32 pm
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Military theater
In the absence of the original German vehicles, staff of Belarusian Historical and Cultural Complex and the Military History Club, adapted Soviet AFV in order to present their theatrical vision of the heroic struggles of "Stalin Line".

It is said that President Lukashov was delighted at.


%20 Soviet%20artillery%20tractor%20AT-P%20-%20quasi%20Schützenpanzerwagen.%20%20

Successful replica of a Soviet tank BT-5.

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www.stalin-line.by/english.shtml
www.stalin-line.by/galery3.shtml
www.stalin-line.by/galery4.shtml
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