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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:56 am
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The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.

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Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?

www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles
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Anyone a grid of the location(s) of the PALIS foundation?

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Anyone a grid of the location(s) of the PALIS foundation?

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Here
www.aviationmuseum.eu/...dation.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:17 pm
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Hi Folks!

- bialy-r

- Tichenor

The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.
Michel


Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?
www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles


From what I understand, that Sherman is a US build M-4A1.
The detail difference can be seen in the tracks and the sprockets.

Grizzlys use a type of track block call "Canadian Dry Pin" (CDP) which uses a single pin to contect one block to another. What is called a "dead track". That type of track block requires a sprocket with a different type tooth pattern from the other types. The teeth look somewhat like a single finger.

All the other Shermans use a "live track" with two pins per block contected by "end connecters" and the sprocket teeth look like pyramids pointing outward from the center.

If I am looking at the correct vehicle, then that vehicle has a "live track" block assemble.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:55 pm
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Grizzlys use a type of track block call "Canadian Dry Pin" (CDP)


That's correct, however lots of Grizzly owners have changed the tracks to more common Sherman type tracks.

that Sherman is a US build M-4A1

Not necessary, Canadian Grizzlys used American cast hulls. All where build by General Steel hence the G in the shield. I know it's not enough to be sure its a Grizzly but the chance of a surviving M4A1 casted by General steel is much smaller than a Grizzly in this part of the world.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:27 am
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More from the Athens Army Park:
www.militaryphotos.net...-Army-Park

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:35 pm
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The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.

Michel


Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?

www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles


Hard to say.. given that a lot of ex-Grizzly tanks have been sold by Portugal in the 1980s, there is more chances that it is a Grizzly rather than an M4A1. Hard to say.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:54 am
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Not necessary, Canadian Grizzlys used American cast hulls. All where build by General Steel hence the G in the shield. I know it's not enough to be sure its a Grizzly but the chance of a surviving M4A1 casted by General steel is much smaller than a Grizzly in this part of the world.


I'll second that. There used to be a Grizzly named Angel of Freedom in Belgium. If this is the same, it is a Grizzly which was retrofitted with rubber tracks (the orginal CDP track being weighed in at the scrapman...) and a non-original engine. I know the Belgian owner sold it, so it could well have ended up in Greece.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:41 pm
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A company dealing in old military vehicles:
www.hatzikiriakos.gr/i...ng=english

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:39 pm
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A link to a zip file with a nice collection of walkaround and interior photos showing the Army Park M52: maquetland.com/zip/zip/m52.zip

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:38 am
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Monument M24 inside an Army facility:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:04 pm
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Vehicles in the collection of the Air Force Museum:
www.haf.gr/el/media/ph...=20&page=1
www.haf.gr/el/media/ph...=20&page=5

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:19 am
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More from the War Museum in Thessaloniki, courtesy of Panoramio:
www.panoramio.com/phot...ser=913681

www.panoramio.com/phot...ser=913681

www.panoramio.com/phot...er=2609564

www.panoramio.com/phot...er=3756135

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:52 am
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More preserved AFVs, from the Army's own site (museum page)

Rethymnon: White M3A1 Scout car, M24 Chaffee, M42 Duster.

Armor Training Center: Photo Gallery The photo of the A27L Centaur is an old one, before it was repainted in a more correct scheme.

Komotini: M8 Greyhound (diesel), BMP-1A1 Ost, AMX-30B.

Kalamata: M8 Greyhound (diesel), M48A5 Patton.

Didymoteicho: Marmon-Herrington Mk IVF, photos 1 & 2.

Officers' Academy: AMX-30B, M48 Patton, M44, M52, M59, M59A1, M24 Chaffee, M42 Duster.

Artillery Officers' School: M42 Duster, M52.

Fort Lisse: M42 Duster.

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Is it a Centaur or a Cromwell? There aren't many preserved Centaurs. It's not a good picture but what are the tracks? They look like 432 APC tracks similar to what the Overloon museum did with their Cromwell.
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