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Doug, great pics! Would love to see some of the artillery too!

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Doug,
Your pictures are awesome! Every time I take pictures I try to do as well as you. I plan on sending those Sherman pictures to Joe DeMarco. Did you by chance get a serial number or any numbers off that tank in your hurry to not be aprehended by the soldiers? haha.

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Doug, great pics! Would love to see some of the artillery too!

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Stand by, Neil. It's comin'...gonna' do the armor first (I really should have created a new album for this...didn't realize I had so many pics)

Thanks, Jeff...but no, I didn't get any serial numbers and was pressing my luck by crawling around already where I probably shouldn't 'a been. (Climbing on broken concrete rubble in bid'ness' shoes is not recommended, either...especially loafers....it's a miracle I didn't break my ankle).

Here is Jim's old Abi still up on the stands...interior view also:





...And now, for some modern stuff. T-55 and up. I have display plaques, too, but I'm racking up a bunch of pics...maybe I'll montage them.
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First, a very sad Sherman. From the looks of the burned track but more-or-less intact road wheels, I'd guess it's been pieced together from various bits. How and why it came to be so symetrically chopped up in back I have no idea...ballistic testing of cut plate from the rear quarter panels seems unlikely, so maybe it was used to uparmor something else...


My guess this is an ex-Soviet Army M4A2. There is a similar cut-up hulk in Belgium. After the war, the scrapman started to cut it up for scrap. When he was halfway, the village bought the rest off him and put it up for display. Could be the same sort of thing happened to this Sherman.

Thanks for the pics!

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The red Rumanian tank is an R-2 (their version of the Czech LT-35) and the SPG is the TACAM R-2 which is a Soviet 76.2mm gun mounted on the R-2 chassis.
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The red Rumanian tank is an R-2 (their version of the Czech LT-35) and the SPG is the TACAM R-2 which is a Soviet 76.2mm gun mounted on the R-2 chassis.


Do you know what's up with that red color that the two vehicles were painted in? Some kind of parade livery or what? It was obviously faded from exposure, but it's hideous.
This picture shows how awful.it.truely.is:


The R2 again:



...and detail on the TACAM. Sorry about the bottle.





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Do you know what's up with that red color that the two vehicles were painted in? Some kind of parade livery or what? It was obviously faded from exposure, but it's hideous.


As these vehicles were all a rust & greenish colour a few years ago I'd say it was some sort of undercoat/rust convertor. They just seem to be taking their time applying another coat - nothing unusual as money is really tight at musuems in Romania.

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OK, Whatiz? Couldn't find any plates identifying as Hanomag or Skoda, or anybody else....who built these? Interleaved road wheels make me think German.

One thing not conveyed by the pics is the size. I mean, like M60A1 size (and maybe longer). This is a big vehicle. The trailer is not attached, but is displayed as part of this unit, (but I think more likely the one next to it...to follow). The trailer contained a generator.





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Do you know what's up with that red color that the two vehicles were painted in? Some kind of parade livery or what? It was obviously faded from exposure, but it's hideous.


As these vehicles were all a rust & greenish colour a few years ago I'd say it was some sort of undercoat/rust convertor. They just seem to be taking their time applying another coat - nothing unusual as money is really tight at musuems in Romania.


Yeah, I've seen M26 Pattons with exactly the same color.

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That is the SdKfz 9 schwerer Zugkraftwagon 18t.

It carried 9 soldiers and towed heavy artillery.


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That is the SdKfz 9 schwerer Zugkraftwagon 18t.

It carried 9 soldiers and towed heavy artillery.


Jeff


Thanks Jeff,
Who manufactured these? I could find no identifying marks on it.

Are you sure it's not the 5T vehicle. Some good stuff can be found here (but I don't know if it's correct):
www.geocities.com/athe...racks.html
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OK, Whatiz? Couldn't find any plates identifying as Hanomag or Skoda, or anybody else....who built these? Interleaved road wheels make me think German.

One thing not conveyed by the pics is the size. I mean, like M60A1 size (and maybe longer). This is a big vehicle. The trailer is not attached, but is displayed as part of this unit, (but I think more likely the one next to it...to follow). The trailer contained a generator.



Doug,

That halftrack is the Schwerer Zugkraftwagen 18t Sd.Kfz 9 recovery vehicle mostly known as the FAMO.

Built by FAMO (bulk of production), Tatra and Vomag between 1939 to 1945. About 2500 produced. Used for tank salvage and trailer towing.

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Doug ... although very similar, I identify them by the road wheels. The 5t, 12t and 8t all use wheels that are easy to identify them from each other.

The 18t was produced by Famo Fahrezeugwerke und Motorwerke AG.


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Oh ... and by the way, it was the largest halftrack made in WWII. This thing even pulled disabled tanks too!


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