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For those who may be interested:



Taken today with more to follow

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Is that the museum's T23? Which was formerly at TACOM in Warren MI?

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# 2 in the 'hit parade'.



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Is that the museum's T23? Which was formerly at TACOM in Warren MI?

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Yup, I think thats what its called,....

Oh, here is # 3 on the hit parade



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Don,
Would appreciate a couple of things on the T23:
1) Find where the SN is stamped if you can, probably on the front tow lugs...
2) check out the rear hull above the tow lugs and see if there's some wierd arrows that seem to be directions - perhaps for tieing off cables or something? The APG examples have that... Havent been able to check them for SNs unfortunately...

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Oh yeah, I assume that is Richardson MP?

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Oh yeah, I assume that is Richardson MP?

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The T23 is in RMP. Was able to get some good pics while doing a few 'chores'. I also made a short trip to LST.

I'm compiling photos on several subject vehicles, will post as I get them done.

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#4




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Ref #4; Gee someone got a new short-barreled Panzer III turret? Where was that on the net? I never knew FedEx would handle something that size.
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Ref #4; Gee someone got a new short-barreled Panzer III turret? Where was that on the net? I never knew FedEx would handle something that size.


No, it was UPS, they ship just about anything.

Actually that is the 75mm that came with the Sd Kfz 251/9. Its just covered for its protection since being totally restored.

Progress has been slow on this unique 'survivor', but there are ongoing efforts with measured results.

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Don,
Would appreciate a couple of things on the T23:
1) Find where the SN is stamped if you can, probably on the front tow lugs...
2) check out the rear hull above the tow lugs and see if there's some wierd arrows that seem to be directions - perhaps for tieing off cables or something? The APG examples have that... Havent been able to check them for SNs unfortunately...

Neil


Neil,

do you have a photo of these two T23s at Aberdeen? It's impossible to find any photo of these 2 tanks on the web.

thanks

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Really? I coulda sworn I had posted these before...

Unfortunately I dont have any frontal pictures - havent been inside this area yet...





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Really? I coulda sworn I had posted these before...

Neil


Thanks Neil for the pics.
The only post & pictures which appear when looking for "T23 Aberdeen" in the "search" section are these ones..

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Don,
Would appreciate a couple of things on the T23:
1) Find where the SN is stamped if you can, probably on the front tow lugs...
2) check out the rear hull above the tow lugs and see if there's some wierd arrows that seem to be directions - perhaps for tieing off cables or something? The APG examples have that... Havent been able to check them for SNs unfortunately...

Neil


T23 (SN 17 / USA # 30103066) produced in May 1944.

There were 250 T23's produced between Jan - Dec 1944.

I have a copy of Characteristic Data Sheets on the T23 if interested (dated Feb 44 & Feb 45 updated)

Took numerous photos, interior & exterior. I'll post them if interested.

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Thanks! Where did you find the SN stamped? Tow lug?

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