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USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:56 pm
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SWR - It looks like an M728.

Appears to be located near the intersection of Museum Rd and Cloniger Ct, Rock Hill, SC.
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VB, thanks for posting. If you look at the aerial view, its clearly outside an armory - lots of big, green trucks behind the building. The google map address placement is often approximate, a little off in this case.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:06 pm
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I don't recall seeing this one in the register:
M4A3(76)HVSS McKinney TX:

maps.google.com/maps?f...90.95,,0,5

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:55 pm
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Question regarding the Register.

As the term AFV been defined somewhere here in the forum in regards to what is wanted in this register? For example if they put a new "Up-armored" HMMWV in front of the new regimental school house on Fort Lee does that count? I only ask because I saw there was one of our "Gun Trucks" at Eustis on the 3.0 list?


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Admittedly, I am employing the term "AFV" rather loosely. A textbook definition (derived from definitions for various AFVs used in the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty and the UN Conventional Arms Register) would be "Self propelled vehicles with armored protection, a variety of armament, and cross country mobility." But in practice that can often be difficult to apply to specific vehicles. For example, I have a hard time determining whether various WWII high-speed tractors or German half-tracks were really "armored" or not. So I tend to err on being inclusive, unless its clearly something that is not armored (such as unarmored trucks and HMMWVs), or a vehicle. Armament can be rather more "fudgy" since an APC may not necessarily need any armament.

But to answer your question more directly, yes, I would include Up-Armored HMMWVs. I already have a couple on the list from Camp Pendleton.

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Thanks Neil,

This is something I have been meaning to ask...well I will grab a picture of the HMMWV at the Regiment AIT school too then at Lee...and keep this in mind...

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Hello,

France Historical AFVs register was updated today. It took me 2 full days to do the updates and to review all the links contained in the document, to remove/replace the wrong or dead links..

http://the.shadock.free.fr/France_AFVs.pdf

A new version of The Netherlands AFVs register will be reviewed and put online on next Tuesday, Michel Krauss sent me the updated document few days ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:42 pm
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Neil,

We had a grand adventure exploring Camp Mackall and tracking down the AFVs. That we had any success at all is thanks to Mrs VB suggesting we “just ask those guys over there”. LOL!
We talked to a local fisherman and he sent us in one direction that, after a few “Hmmm, let’s try THIS way” turns eventually lead to a guard post staffed by a former M1 tanker who gave us precise directions!

Location info as follows:

Historical Marker
Ashemont Road & 501/15

Camp Entrance – UH-1, sign, memorial
Intersection of 11th ABN Div Rd & General Ridgway Rd
35.036889, -79.468428

M60 SN 2086
Intersection of 17th ABN Div Rd (gravel) and Operation Varsity Rd (dirt)
35.0145 -79.4765

Target Range/Field area with T72, BMP1 and BRDM2
35.017161, -79.458833

T72
35.018167 -79.459

BMP-1
35.0185 -79.4595

BRDM2
35.0195 -79.4585

Road to take off of US 15/501 to get to Target Range/Field area with T72, BMP1 and BRDM2
35.017806, -79.445919

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:54 pm
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- vagabond
SWR - It looks like an M728.

Appears to be located near the intersection of Museum Rd and Cloniger Ct, Rock Hill, SC.

(late reply) thanks, my AFV ID-fu isn't quite as good as my aircraft ID-fu yet Smile


Found this one while artillery-hunting; don't see it on the register but it's possible I've missed an alternate place name.

American Legion
14414 Ford Drive
New Lenox, IL

41.489967,-87.965308

M60?


edit, make that two:

American Legion
15052 Archer Avenue
Lockport, IL 60441-2258

M60?

41.612972,-88.040721
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:55 pm
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American Legion Post #400
3029 NW US 24
Topeka, KS 66618
-M60 Patton

39.090396,-95.707129

Satellite images are old, but it's visible in streetview

edit: given that there's nothing at the other listed Legion post (3800 SE Michigan Ave), I'd be willing to bet that this is M60A3 AAD Rebuild SN 4289A

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American Legion Post #84
2263 3rd Ave
Columbus, NE 68601
-M60A3 Patton AAD Rebuild SN 2701A
41.43822,-97.328873

edit3:
Clay Center, NE
Local Park
-M60A3 Patton AAD Rebuild SN 2773A
40.524545,-98.057997

edit4:
Cedar Bluffs, NE
Local Park/Near Baseball Fields
-M60A3 Patton AAD Rebuild SN 2780A
41.396856,-96.614488

Beaver Crossing, NE
Local Park
-M60A3 Patton AAD Rebuild SN 2791A
40.776504,-97.2762

Beatrice, NE
Chautauqua Park
M4A1E8 Sherman Easy Eight
40.254673,-96.744728
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:10 am
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Neil-regarding the "Fort Economy Sam Werner Museum" you added as a new listing in the new registry draft, I've located an address and coordinates, based on their website:
www.hack1966.com/memor...onomy.html

Which gives the address as 6587 State Route 180, Kingston, OH 45644. Judging by the vehicles on the ground I'd say the coordinates 39.439541,-82.835675 are about right. This one is more or less close to the Vinton County Airport I also intend to visit this summer, so I'll post a report if and when I visit.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:50 am
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The Canada list linked at the beginning is dated 2007. Is there a newer edition?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:11 pm
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Neil - Found the Mt Pleasant, SC M59.

She's located at 245 State Road S-10-56, Mount Pleasant, SC
( N32°48'25.45" W79°53'25.63")

Will post photos soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:45 am
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VB,
Thanks man. I've made at least two trips on my own to try to find that one - based on coordinates that were posted on the old geocaching site. Clearly they were wrong.

My wedding reception is just two miles away from there this Saturday - but no, I wont be making a stop Wink

Maple,
Unfortunately I havent been able to update the Canada register. I would, however, welcome someone to try to update it on their own! Michel did a great job updating the USA register, and I've been working on some tweaks ever since - of course VB here keeps posting new galleries & info I have to include! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:51 pm
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Neil - Posted 11 more galleries to the SC section of the smugmug site - the post is in the AFV main forum - including the elusive Mt Pleasant M59.

Consider it a wedding gift from Mrs VB and me! Smile

I'm working on getting all the smaller AFV locations we've photographed posted ASAP to facilitate the updating of the AFV Register.
When that is done I'll get the larger museums and collections posted. Those tend to be better documented informationally and photographically anyway, so I figure I've got more time with them.

Congrats on the wedding! Here's to a long and happy life together!
Cheers!
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