±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 597
Total: 597
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: CPGlang
02: Member Screenshots
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Downloads
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Downloads
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Your Account
28: Community Forums
29: Photo Gallery
30: Photo Gallery
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Statistics
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: CPGlang
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Your Account
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Downloads
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Statistics
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Downloads
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: CPGlang
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Photo Gallery
108: Photo Gallery
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Member Screenshots
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Your Account
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Statistics
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Your Account
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: CPGlang
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Photo Gallery
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Home
177: Member Screenshots
178: Search
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Downloads
193: Photo Gallery
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Community Forums
206: Photo Gallery
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Photo Gallery
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Downloads
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Downloads
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Photo Gallery
232: Downloads
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Photo Gallery
239: Photo Gallery
240: Member Screenshots
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Downloads
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Downloads
257: Downloads
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Downloads
265: Home
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Your Account
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Downloads
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Member Screenshots
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Statistics
286: Community Forums
287: Photo Gallery
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Photo Gallery
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Home
304: Downloads
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Search
308: CPGlang
309: Your Account
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: CPGlang
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Downloads
324: Photo Gallery
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Photo Gallery
331: Community Forums
332: Photo Gallery
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Photo Gallery
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Downloads
352: Statistics
353: Community Forums
354: Statistics
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Downloads
365: Community Forums
366: Photo Gallery
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Photo Gallery
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Member Screenshots
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Your Account
379: Statistics
380: Photo Gallery
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Home
386: Photo Gallery
387: Community Forums
388: Photo Gallery
389: Community Forums
390: Home
391: Photo Gallery
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Home
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Home
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Home
407: Downloads
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Downloads
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: Photo Gallery
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Statistics
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Photo Gallery
426: Photo Gallery
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Downloads
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Downloads
444: Community Forums
445: Home
446: Downloads
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: CPGlang
454: CPGlang
455: Home
456: Downloads
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Your Account
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Photo Gallery
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Downloads
472: Photo Gallery
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: CPGlang
479: Home
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Your Account
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Photo Gallery
490: Photo Gallery
491: Downloads
492: Your Account
493: Community Forums
494: Member Screenshots
495: Home
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Downloads
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Home
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: News Archive
512: Community Forums
513: Photo Gallery
514: Photo Gallery
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Your Account
522: Photo Gallery
523: Home
524: CPGlang
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Member Screenshots
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Photo Gallery
531: Downloads
532: Photo Gallery
533: Your Account
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Member Screenshots
540: Member Screenshots
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Photo Gallery
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Downloads
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Photo Gallery
551: Community Forums
552: Photo Gallery
553: Home
554: Community Forums
555: Downloads
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Home
560: Home
561: Community Forums
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: News
565: Your Account
566: Home
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Statistics
570: Community Forums
571: Home
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: News
575: Community Forums
576: Downloads
577: Photo Gallery
578: Your Account
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Your Account
582: CPGlang
583: Community Forums
584: Photo Gallery
585: Home
586: Community Forums
587: Home
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Statistics
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
My son found this picture...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:27 am
Post subject: My son found this picture...

My 11 year old son found this picture while surfing the net for armored vehicles. I do not know German vehicles or aircraft. Would someone be kind enough to tell us what we have here? Looks like some sort of TOW mounted on top of the "Mini Tank". I sure wouldn't want to face an M1 in one of these![img][/img]
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:38 am
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

Hi Jeff!

That's is a Germany Airborne Light armored recon squad. First vehicle is a Mak 1 Wiesel with the US TOW ATGM system. The second vehicle coming out of the CH-53 is the Mk 20 A1 Wiesel with a 20mm autocannon.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:46 am
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

Thanks Roy,
Jeffrey says thanks for the info, he's sitting here with me now. He thinks it would be cool to drive one of those to school, however it might be hard to park at the bike rack, haha. I honestly didn't think any country used armor this small. Looks like a 240B MG would even make swiss cheese of it. How long have they been in use? Reminds me of an even smaller Ontos.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Jinx
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 186
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:03 am
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

It might be small, but that doesn't mean it can't pack a punch.

(Pictures and captions found at : www.aeronautics.ru/arc...2/wiesel/)




Mauser-Werke Oberndorf Defense Systems 30 mm RMK 30 automatic cannon installed for trials purposes on a MaK Wiesel 1 light armoured vehicle (2000)




The Rheinmetall Landsysteme Wiesel 2 is used for a number of applications such as the platform for the ASRAD air-defence system for the German Army (Source: STN ATLAS Elektronik)
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:57 am
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
Thanks Roy,
Jeffrey says thanks for the info, he's sitting here with me now. He thinks it would be cool to drive one of those to school, however it might be hard to park at the bike rack, haha. I honestly didn't think any country used armor this small. Looks like a 240B MG would even make swiss cheese of it. How long have they been in use? Reminds me of an even smaller Ontos.


Hi Jeff and Jeffrey! Hi Folks!

I agree with Jeffrey, it would be great to drive around in.

You have remember when looking at those vehicles. They were designed for the German Airborne with a need to fit inside a CH-54. That calls for a very small vehicle.

As for a 240 making swiss cheese out of one, I don't think so. While the Wiesel maybe small, it should have protection up tp 7.62mm ball ammo and artillery shrapnel from a near miss.

The first batch was fielded in late 1989. The German Army ordered 210 TOW carriers and 135 auto cannon vehicles.

The version with four small road wheels is a Wiesel 2 which has an extended base.

There is are a couple of different mission types in service.

Vehicle is (the short one) 3.31 meters long, 1.82 meters wide, and height to the top of the hull is 1.352 meters.

Should fit into rush hour traffic without any problems.

One more note: The United States Army has a few of those Wiesels. Smile

However their are only be used for robotic testing. Sad

Spot report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:53 pm
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

It feels dirty even posting this....I feel so cheap. Sad


_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:20 pm
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

[quote="JG300-Ascout"]It feels dirty even posting this....I feel so cheap. Sad

Hi there Ascout! Hi folks!

Buckup fly boy, you are not that cheap. Smile

That magazine cover is one of the FEW good points about Mr. Sparks position on adding armor to the US Airborne forces. Smile

To bad his mommy never told him that he can gather more flies with honey that he can with vinger. Confused

If he wasn't so over the top and excessive, he would have a much better chance of getting others to listin to him. He also needs to learn to listen to those who do not agree with him and not counter attack them with negative comments. Twisted Evil

One other nice point about his site is the very interesting models he uses to add visuals to his claims.

I have plans (I have lots of plans!) of trying to convert an old Tamiya Sheridan into a recon carrier without the turret. Now Mr. Sparks has givin me the idea of taking the left over turret and mounting it on top a M-113 APC. I figuer it would make a great conversional item at model club shows. Smile

Maybe I should start a campaign to recall the C-7 Caribou, add two more enigines to it so it can carry a pair of M114 Lingles deep into bad guy country! Wink


Now I think I will go take a nap and try very hard to clear my brain.
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:18 pm
Post subject: Re: My son found this picture...

- JG300-Ascout
It feels dirty even posting this....I feel so cheap. Sad



Shame!!

Be sure you wash your hands and get a new keyboard!! Shocked

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum