±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 653
Total: 653
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Your Account
04: Your Account
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Photo Gallery
09: CPGlang
10: CPGlang
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Your Account
14: Downloads
15: Member Screenshots
16: Member Screenshots
17: Photo Gallery
18: Photo Gallery
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Your Account
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Member Screenshots
30: Community Forums
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: CPGlang
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Downloads
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Downloads
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Statistics
54: Home
55: Statistics
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: Photo Gallery
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: CPGlang
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: CPGlang
75: Community Forums
76: Your Account
77: CPGlang
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: CPGlang
90: Downloads
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Photo Gallery
94: Community Forums
95: CPGlang
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Downloads
107: Member Screenshots
108: Community Forums
109: News
110: Downloads
111: CPGlang
112: Member Screenshots
113: Your Account
114: Home
115: Downloads
116: Member Screenshots
117: CPGlang
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Downloads
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: CPGlang
131: Community Forums
132: Downloads
133: Home
134: CPGlang
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Downloads
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: CPGlang
142: Community Forums
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Downloads
151: Home
152: Member Screenshots
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Photo Gallery
156: Home
157: Member Screenshots
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Home
162: Home
163: Your Account
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: CPGlang
167: Member Screenshots
168: Member Screenshots
169: Member Screenshots
170: Downloads
171: CPGlang
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: CPGlang
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: CPGlang
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Photo Gallery
190: Downloads
191: Photo Gallery
192: Home
193: CPGlang
194: Home
195: Downloads
196: Community Forums
197: Photo Gallery
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Downloads
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Statistics
212: CPGlang
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Community Forums
230: Photo Gallery
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: CPGlang
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Home
252: Community Forums
253: Your Account
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Home
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Photo Gallery
269: Community Forums
270: CPGlang
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Photo Gallery
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Home
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Member Screenshots
291: Photo Gallery
292: CPGlang
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: CPGlang
299: Home
300: CPGlang
301: Community Forums
302: Downloads
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Downloads
306: Photo Gallery
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: News Archive
312: Member Screenshots
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Your Account
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Home
331: News
332: CPGlang
333: Member Screenshots
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Photo Gallery
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Member Screenshots
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Home
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Photo Gallery
364: Your Account
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: CPGlang
369: Photo Gallery
370: Community Forums
371: Photo Gallery
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Your Account
378: News Archive
379: Community Forums
380: Home
381: Downloads
382: CPGlang
383: Photo Gallery
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: CPGlang
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Home
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Downloads
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: CPGlang
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Downloads
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Photo Gallery
411: Community Forums
412: Downloads
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Home
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Photo Gallery
428: Photo Gallery
429: CPGlang
430: Community Forums
431: Photo Gallery
432: Community Forums
433: Home
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: CPGlang
437: Photo Gallery
438: CPGlang
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: CPGlang
442: CPGlang
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Photo Gallery
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: News Archive
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: CPGlang
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Downloads
459: Community Forums
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Photo Gallery
465: Downloads
466: Community Forums
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Member Screenshots
479: Community Forums
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Photo Gallery
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Photo Gallery
491: Home
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Your Account
501: Home
502: Home
503: Home
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Downloads
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Photo Gallery
517: Community Forums
518: Home
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: CPGlang
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Your Account
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Downloads
532: Community Forums
533: Home
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Downloads
539: Photo Gallery
540: Downloads
541: Home
542: News
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Downloads
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: CPGlang
549: Community Forums
550: CPGlang
551: Community Forums
552: Home
553: Statistics
554: CPGlang
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Downloads
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Home
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: CPGlang
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Downloads
574: Community Forums
575: News Archive
576: Photo Gallery
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Your Account
581: Home
582: Home
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Photo Gallery
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: CPGlang
597: Photo Gallery
598: Home
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: CPGlang
602: Community Forums
603: CPGlang
604: Community Forums
605: Member Screenshots
606: Your Account
607: Home
608: Photo Gallery
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: CPGlang
612: Community Forums
613: Your Account
614: Home
615: Home
616: Member Screenshots
617: Community Forums
618: Home
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Photo Gallery
623: Community Forums
624: CPGlang
625: Photo Gallery
626: Community Forums
627: Photo Gallery
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: CPGlang
631: Your Account
632: Community Forums
633: Photo Gallery
634: Community Forums
635: Home
636: Photo Gallery
637: Photo Gallery
638: Community Forums
639: Member Screenshots
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Photo Gallery
644: CPGlang
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Downloads
650: Home
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Victory Museum's under the hammer?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:10 am
Post subject: Victory Museum's under the hammer?



www.auctionsamerica.co...amp;page=1
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

well, you're probably right, the museum in Auburn seems to be split all over the US and maybe even all over the world.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
vagabond
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 05, 2009
Posts: 1388
Location: Constantly moving across US
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

We were through there in January of 2012 and there were a LOT of holes in the collection - compared to the 2009 visit. The tour I'm currently on will take us to Ft Wayne in June 2013. We'll stop in and see what is still there at that time.

Cheers,
VB
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:13 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

the answer is here :
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628906

To make it short : a judge orders the museums to be sold. Farmers State Bank of LaGrange sued the Dean Kruse Foundation for $2.9M for defaulting on a loan granted in April 2009 and refinanced in May 2011.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
earlymb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 30, 2011
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

I remember visiting the Arlon museum as a kid in 1994; I still have the brochure about the vehicles they then sold in the museum shop!

Does anyone have more information about the two (unarmoured) Maultiere, the closed cab RSO or the two 3-ton halftracks? I still remember those from my visit to the museum. Are they original, does anyone have more detailed photo's?

Greetz

David
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

They're all on the .pdfs, the Maultiers are certainly bitzas, one's got the running gear from a Loyd Carrier.
Back to top
View user's profile
earlymb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 30, 2011
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

- Pzkpfw-e
They're all on the .pdfs, the Maultiers are certainly bitzas, one's got the running gear from a Loyd Carrier.


Thanks, I saw that, but there's no source listed for that information and no comment at all is listed for the other vehicles. It would be interesting to find out though! Smile
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:45 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

They add estimate prices:
www.auctionsamerica.co...eCode=MM12

ps.

I hope that the 1940 Humber Hexonaut GS 6x6 Amphibious Prototype (Lot No. 167) will be bought by one of British Museums - that is a very rare vehicle.
Back to top
View user's profile
zemsi
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2012
Posts: 160
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:13 am
Post subject: Re: sold

... and here are the prices of the sold items

www.auctionsamerica.co...ng=&page=1

_________________
www.wheelsandtracks.com and my pics on flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:10 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

Low prices, in fact.
Reason of this situation - low level of restoration and lots of new-built vehicles. Low number of collection vehicles was real relics. Also, some real relics was sold before auction.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

Here are the vehicles that will end up in France (to the same collector, ASPHM association) :


Stoewer 40 4x4 Anti-Aircraft Car


Fiat 626N Cargo Truck


Latil M2TL6 4x4 Tractor


Magirus-Deutz RSO/03 Full-Track Tractor


Renault UE Full-Track Armored Carrier


Unic Kegresse P107/U304(f) Armored Half-Track Tractor


Borgward H kl 6 Half-Track Tractor


Auto Union HL kl 6p Half-Track Tractor


Hotchkiss WH : GW39H(f) Full-Track Pak 40 Anti-Tank Mounted Gun


Hanomag S.P.W. Ausf. C SdKfz 251/1 Armored 3/4-Track


Daimler-Benz DB10 SdKfz 8 12-Ton Half-Track Prime Mover

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:59 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

- the_shadock
Here are the vehicles that will end up in France (to the same collector, ASPHM association) :


Stoewer 40 4x4 Anti-Aircraft Car - $ 52,000

Fiat 626N Cargo Truck - $ 8,000

Latil M2TL6 4x4 Tractor - $ 10,000

Magirus-Deutz RSO/03 Full-Track Tractor - $ 39,000

Renault UE Full-Track Armored Carrier - $ 45,000

Unic Kegresse P107/U304(f) Armored Half-Track Tractor - $ 20,000

Borgward H kl 6 Half-Track Tractor - $145,000

Auto Union HL kl 6p Half-Track Tractor - $ 75,000

Hotchkiss WH : GW39H(f) Full-Track Pak 40 Anti-Tank Mounted Gun - $ 35,000

Hanomag S.P.W. Ausf. C SdKfz 251/1 Armored 3/4-Track - $160,000

Daimler-Benz DB10 SdKfz 8 12-Ton Half-Track Prime Mover - $200,000


All Smile = $ 789000


ps.
I'm happy that those vehicles go to ASPHM association.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:26 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

- bialy-r
I'm happy that those vehicles go to ASPHM association.


yes, me too. At least they will remain accessible to the public, and we will konw where they are, they will not be hidden for 10 years.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:39 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

Almost all vehicles from this list - half-replicas. As example, Stoewer have almost all body panels... Same situation with german semi-tracks, "Marder" etc. That's main reason why result of auction was with low final cost. 160K USD for 251 - it's very, very low price. Same with Sd.Kfz.8 and many vehicles from ex-Victory Museum collection.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:49 am
Post subject: Re: Victory Museum's under the hammer?

The new buyer knew this, but he thought that it was worth spending 160 000 dollars for a good chassis and engine of SdKfz 8, even if the hull is a replica.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum