±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 810
Total: 810
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Photo Gallery
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Photo Gallery
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Home
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Downloads
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Downloads
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Photo Gallery
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Downloads
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Your Account
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Your Account
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: News Archive
82: Home
83: News
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: CPGlang
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Downloads
92: Community Forums
93: Downloads
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Statistics
97: Community Forums
98: CPGlang
99: Downloads
100: Photo Gallery
101: Home
102: Downloads
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: News Archive
110: Home
111: News Archive
112: Community Forums
113: Downloads
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Downloads
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Photo Gallery
127: Community Forums
128: Photo Gallery
129: Community Forums
130: Photo Gallery
131: News
132: Photo Gallery
133: Downloads
134: Photo Gallery
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Downloads
138: Photo Gallery
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Downloads
142: Community Forums
143: Home
144: Downloads
145: Community Forums
146: Downloads
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: CPGlang
169: Community Forums
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Downloads
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Downloads
179: Photo Gallery
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Your Account
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Downloads
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: News Archive
201: CPGlang
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: News Archive
206: Member Screenshots
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Member Screenshots
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Photo Gallery
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Downloads
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Statistics
241: Photo Gallery
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Downloads
247: Member Screenshots
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Statistics
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: News Archive
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Downloads
262: Community Forums
263: Photo Gallery
264: Community Forums
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: CPGlang
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Downloads
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Home
293: Home
294: Home
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Community Forums
304: News
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Member Screenshots
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Statistics
316: CPGlang
317: Your Account
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Photo Gallery
324: Downloads
325: Community Forums
326: Downloads
327: Community Forums
328: Photo Gallery
329: Home
330: Photo Gallery
331: Downloads
332: Home
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Downloads
336: Community Forums
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Member Screenshots
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: CPGlang
356: Downloads
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Your Account
363: Community Forums
364: Downloads
365: CPGlang
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Photo Gallery
372: Downloads
373: Community Forums
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Downloads
382: Community Forums
383: Member Screenshots
384: Home
385: Home
386: Community Forums
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Downloads
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Photo Gallery
408: Photo Gallery
409: Photo Gallery
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Member Screenshots
413: Photo Gallery
414: Community Forums
415: Downloads
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Photo Gallery
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Home
433: Home
434: Photo Gallery
435: Home
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: Photo Gallery
441: Downloads
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Your Account
445: Your Account
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Downloads
449: Community Forums
450: Statistics
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Home
466: Home
467: Home
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Photo Gallery
476: Community Forums
477: Photo Gallery
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Member Screenshots
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Photo Gallery
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Photo Gallery
498: Community Forums
499: Photo Gallery
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Downloads
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Downloads
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Downloads
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Downloads
515: Community Forums
516: Photo Gallery
517: Community Forums
518: Downloads
519: Community Forums
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Member Screenshots
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Photo Gallery
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Downloads
533: Photo Gallery
534: Community Forums
535: Home
536: Downloads
537: Downloads
538: CPGlang
539: Community Forums
540: Downloads
541: Photo Gallery
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Photo Gallery
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Downloads
551: Downloads
552: Community Forums
553: News Archive
554: Community Forums
555: Photo Gallery
556: Photo Gallery
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Your Account
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Downloads
567: Photo Gallery
568: Photo Gallery
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Downloads
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Home
581: Home
582: Home
583: Community Forums
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Home
593: Community Forums
594: Home
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Home
598: Community Forums
599: Photo Gallery
600: Community Forums
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Home
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Home
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Photo Gallery
618: Community Forums
619: Photo Gallery
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Photo Gallery
623: Community Forums
624: Photo Gallery
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Member Screenshots
646: Photo Gallery
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Photo Gallery
658: CPGlang
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Home
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Home
667: Community Forums
668: Member Screenshots
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Your Account
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Member Screenshots
677: Downloads
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Photo Gallery
684: Photo Gallery
685: Community Forums
686: Photo Gallery
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Your Account
690: Home
691: Home
692: Community Forums
693: Home
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Photo Gallery
698: Home
699: News
700: Member Screenshots
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Photo Gallery
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Member Screenshots
711: Photo Gallery
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Community Forums
715: Photo Gallery
716: Community Forums
717: Downloads
718: Community Forums
719: Community Forums
720: Home
721: Community Forums
722: Downloads
723: Community Forums
724: Home
725: Home
726: Community Forums
727: Downloads
728: Home
729: Community Forums
730: Community Forums
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: Home
735: Photo Gallery
736: Community Forums
737: Home
738: Home
739: Community Forums
740: Community Forums
741: Downloads
742: Community Forums
743: Home
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Community Forums
748: Home
749: Community Forums
750: Downloads
751: Community Forums
752: Community Forums
753: Photo Gallery
754: Community Forums
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Member Screenshots
758: Home
759: Community Forums
760: Photo Gallery
761: Community Forums
762: CPGlang
763: Community Forums
764: Downloads
765: Community Forums
766: Community Forums
767: Photo Gallery
768: Community Forums
769: Community Forums
770: Home
771: Community Forums
772: Photo Gallery
773: Community Forums
774: Photo Gallery
775: Community Forums
776: Community Forums
777: Community Forums
778: Community Forums
779: Community Forums
780: Community Forums
781: Community Forums
782: Community Forums
783: Community Forums
784: Home
785: Community Forums
786: News
787: Community Forums
788: Community Forums
789: Statistics
790: Community Forums
791: Community Forums
792: Home
793: Community Forums
794: Photo Gallery
795: Community Forums
796: Community Forums
797: Photo Gallery
798: Community Forums
799: Community Forums
800: Community Forums
801: Photo Gallery
802: Home
803: Photo Gallery
804: Community Forums
805: Home
806: CPGlang
807: Home
808: Photo Gallery
809: News
810: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Future Panzers
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
johnestauffer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:13 pm
Post subject: Future Panzers

There are a number of sites that focus on future aviation projects. Are there any sites that target/deal with the projected German panzer designs?
Most sites give limited coverage to the design studies.
There are bits & pieces of 'never where' panzer data scattered here and there but no central site.
Any information would be appreciated
Thank you
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

When you say 'Future Panzers' Do you mean future as 'in OUR current future' or in 'The proposed (or even imagined) systems that would/could have been built if the Third Reich had survived?'

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

Might be a ground clearance problem with this one....which we might have seen if they'd upped 'Dolph's meds....
Think this would fit on a C-130? Could be a new direction for the FCS...



_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

Ah, future pazers - I'm all notalgic. The early 80s was the golden age of 'future panzers'. The Cold War was still going. Everybody was trying to push the technology envelope as far a possible. Private manufacturers were getting into the act. It doesn't matter than only a handful of those designs ever made it past prototype, it was fun while it lasted.

Future Panzers?
Judging from current evidence apparently everybody in the future is going to be fighting in LAV-IIIs and ex-South African mine-proof vehicles! Wink
Back to top
View user's profile
johnestauffer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

I started out thinking mainly of the 'what if' German (and other Axis) designs. But there area lot of ideal of what could have been floating around. (Few actual models came to light without a lot of concept vehicles)
We have a web ship - Warship Project Index - that is dedicated to the 'never built' ship designs. It includes both actually 'never were's' along with an own designs section for the 'should have been' designs.
Back to top
View user's profile
Sabot
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

We've got a couple of mainstream model kits that were prototypes or "paper panzers". Dragon did the Maus heavy tank and the E-100 heavy tank. There were even some conversions to do an anti-aircraft turreted version. There was also a Dragon Panther-based AAA kit done, Colieon or something like that.

_________________
RobG
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
Jinx
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 186
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:43 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

I have heard reference to a German turretless design from the 1950s or 1960s (i think) that was not unlike the Swedish Stridsvagn 103, but with two 105mm auto-loading guns.....but try as i have, i can't find anything about it online. Anyone know anything about this vehicle? Any information would be appreciated.
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

- JG300-Ascout
Might be a ground clearance problem with this one....which we might have seen if they'd upped 'Dolph's meds....
Think this would fit on a C-130? Could be a new direction for the FCS...




Hey there Mr. Ascout! Hi Folks!

Everytime I look at one of those kits (I do have two of them) I think about the forrest of Germany. Those side weapon stations would be OK out in the wide open country, but try moving they through the trees and they wouldn't make it very far with a team of lumberjacks to help clear the way.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

Jim Webster's site has images of these (I believe he was offering free access a day or two ago for a limited period?)...........I've seen them there!

I seem to remember they had "V" or "VT" Prefixes BUT don't hold me to that - I get time later, I'll see if I can find other sources.

Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

God I'm good (he says smiling) Cool

This is the bugga..........the VT1-2 (VT = VersuchsTrager)........



build by: MaK Maschinenbau GmbH, Kiel, Germany
in: 1975
crew: 3
engine: MTU MB803 Ra-500 Viertakt Vorkammer Vielstoffmotor mit 4 Abgasturboladern 12cyl V90°
45000ccm
max rpm 3000
max power output 2175hp/1600kW for a short time
1500hp/1100kW permanent power output
34,5-50hp/to
battleweight 43,5t
vmax (v/r) 70/40km/h
2x Rh 120mm (same as Leo2) with autoloader
each gun 10-12 rounds per minute = 20-24rounds/minute
the VT1-2 was able to fire on the move...
The chassie was a shortet MBT70 hull (one roadwheele less at each side)






Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:28 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

- buglerbilly





Regards,

BUG


Is that a 105mm mounted Marder?

Back when I was in Germany(86-89), our partnership unit 2/131 PzG had a Platoon Sgt who, related an experimental attempt to mount a large bore gun on the Marder chassis.

Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:32 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

ONTOS Lite....

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:40 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

The vehicle to the right of the VT1-2 is the Marder with 120mm cannon, the vehicle to the left the MBT 70 (or one of the prototypes)............memory again serves me (or not as the case may be) but I think the Marder was related to Swedish trials? As part of their future armour developments which also saw at least mock-ups of a system with a front Tractor Unit linked to a rear gun/ammo unit, witht the crew sitting next to each other in the front unit. Think of a BvS10 armed with a 120mm cannon in the rear and you get the idea!

Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:51 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

I wrote 120mm cannon, it should have read 105mm cannon............apologies! Wink

This is a picture of the prototype the Swedes used, the UDES19 concept.........



The UDES 19 was a german Marder with a 10,5 cm gun was mounted on top of the vehicle to test the feasability of a external tank gun in a low profile top mounted turret.


UDES-XX-20 was the linked "Tank" I remember BUT the gun was on the front unit (memory you fail me! :roll:)............



The UDES-XX-20 was ready for testing in 1981. It was based on the Hägglunds BV 206 and had double waiststeering and an external 12 cm tank gun. While mobility was very good the concept is more expensive than tracksteering. The vehicle weighed 25 tons.


Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:53 am
Post subject: Re: Future Panzers

Bloody TRIPOD........here's the link to the article so you can see the pretty pictures yourselves! Evil or Very Mad

members.tripod.com/Str...v_2000.htm

Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum