±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 636
Total: 636
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Your Account
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Your Account
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Member Screenshots
12: Downloads
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Search
26: Photo Gallery
27: Home
28: Contact
29: Photo Gallery
30: Member Screenshots
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Home
42: Photo Gallery
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Statistics
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: News Archive
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Your Account
53: Member Screenshots
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: Member Screenshots
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: Member Screenshots
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: News Archive
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Downloads
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Member Screenshots
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: CPGlang
91: Community Forums
92: Downloads
93: Downloads
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Downloads
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Member Screenshots
115: Community Forums
116: CPGlang
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: CPGlang
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Downloads
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Your Account
129: Photo Gallery
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Your Account
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Your Account
137: Photo Gallery
138: Home
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: News
148: Downloads
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Downloads
154: Home
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Home
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Member Screenshots
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: CPGlang
173: Community Forums
174: Statistics
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Photo Gallery
180: Downloads
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: News Archive
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Member Screenshots
189: Photo Gallery
190: Photo Gallery
191: Your Account
192: Photo Gallery
193: Member Screenshots
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: News Archive
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: CPGlang
214: Community Forums
215: Your Account
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: CPGlang
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Photo Gallery
226: Photo Gallery
227: Photo Gallery
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Home
233: Statistics
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Photo Gallery
239: Community Forums
240: Your Account
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Home
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Downloads
248: Downloads
249: Home
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Photo Gallery
257: Photo Gallery
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: CPGlang
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Photo Gallery
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Downloads
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: Downloads
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Statistics
281: Downloads
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Photo Gallery
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: CPGlang
293: Home
294: Member Screenshots
295: Community Forums
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Downloads
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Statistics
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Statistics
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: CPGlang
331: Photo Gallery
332: CPGlang
333: Community Forums
334: Downloads
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Your Account
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Photo Gallery
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Photo Gallery
356: Statistics
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Photo Gallery
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Photo Gallery
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Home
383: Home
384: Home
385: Photo Gallery
386: Your Account
387: Member Screenshots
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Photo Gallery
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: News Archive
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Photo Gallery
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Home
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Statistics
423: Community Forums
424: Statistics
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Community Forums
437: News Archive
438: Home
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: CPGlang
444: Photo Gallery
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Downloads
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Home
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Home
457: Downloads
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Member Screenshots
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Photo Gallery
464: Home
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Home
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Statistics
476: News Archive
477: Downloads
478: Home
479: Home
480: CPGlang
481: Photo Gallery
482: Downloads
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Photo Gallery
486: Photo Gallery
487: Statistics
488: Photo Gallery
489: Home
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Home
493: Downloads
494: Member Screenshots
495: Photo Gallery
496: Home
497: Photo Gallery
498: Community Forums
499: Member Screenshots
500: Photo Gallery
501: Community Forums
502: Downloads
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Your Account
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Downloads
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Home
519: Community Forums
520: Your Account
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Photo Gallery
526: Home
527: Home
528: Member Screenshots
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Home
541: Home
542: Photo Gallery
543: Home
544: Community Forums
545: Your Account
546: Community Forums
547: Your Account
548: CPGlang
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Home
552: Photo Gallery
553: Photo Gallery
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Community Forums
559: Photo Gallery
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Photo Gallery
564: Photo Gallery
565: Your Account
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Downloads
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Downloads
575: Community Forums
576: Photo Gallery
577: Home
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Home
588: Downloads
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Your Account
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Home
597: Photo Gallery
598: Home
599: Home
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Downloads
616: Downloads
617: CPGlang
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Photo Gallery
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: CPGlang
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Photo Gallery
630: Community Forums
631: Statistics
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:15 am
Post subject: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

Weather wasnt exactly too great today. Seemed to get better, then we (my friend & I) went out to take pictures it started coming down again. Of course it cleared again as we were leaving.

The pictures in the rain are obvious... Hopefully I'll get another chance to get up there again in the next month or so...

Czech LT-35 in German colors in the museum parking lot. Staff said it may be repainted again in Czech colors.



The Somua S-35 just came out of refurb, looks pretty good. These were taken as the rain started letting up.





KV-1C, also recently out of refurb. Lots of rain...



M4A2 Sherman with a Firefly turret. Lots & lots of rain..



Neil



Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:46 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

Is that one of the M3 Scout cars behind the Firefly?

And I'm going to be lobbying Ed to change the markings on the LT-35.
They were also used by Roumania. I would like to see some new markings represented in the collection and if we can get authentic Roumanian or Czech markings I'd really like it.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)


Last edited by bsmart on Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:50 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:47 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

Did you happen to ask anybody about when or if they plan on working on the Elefante? Or how about when the Tiger I is expected to come back?

Why repaint something that in good shape when so much else needs work (refering the the Czech tank here)?

My parents live in Delaware - will be visiting them later this year, but I don't know if they could stand me making another trip to the Proving Ground.

Thanks - great pics.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:54 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

- jcneel
Did you happen to ask anybody about when or if they plan on working on the Elefante? Or how about when the Tiger I is expected to come back?

Why repaint something that in good shape when so much else needs work (refering the the Czech tank here)?

My parents live in Delaware - will be visiting them later this year, but I don't know if they could stand me making another trip to the Proving Ground.

Thanks - great pics.

cn


The elefante is a real sore point. They almost burnt out a couple HEMTT ( I think that is the proper name for the modern tank transporters) the last time they tried to load it. The feeling is they need to get two large cranes to lift it and let the transporter roll under it then lower it. The thing is it rolls very well but the road next to the railhead isn't sturdy enough to take the weight. So it continues to sit at the railhead.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:07 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

The Somua looks great!

It along with the LT and KV look almost like they're in running condition. I assume they aren't, though?
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:19 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

No, generally the "restorations" are cosmetic only. No money & no requirement to have them as runners. Keep in mind most NASM aircraft restorations are the same way.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

- bsmart
The elefante is a real sore point. They almost burnt out a couple HEMTT ( I think that is the proper name for the modern tank transporters) the last time they tried to load it. The feeling is they need to get two large cranes to lift it and let the transporter roll under it then lower it. The thing is it rolls very well but the road next to the railhead isn't sturdy enough to take the weight. So it continues to sit at the railhead.


Them Army boys need to learn to think outside the box. I work at a chemical plant where we have some heavy construction going on. There are companies that specialize in moving large, heavy loads that could move the Elefante without breaking a sweat - probably wouldn't take them more the 4 hours to load it out and move it. There are transporters designed to distribute the loads and give a low ground pressure (lots of wheels, lots of 'em) so could move it down the road with no problem. These transporters can also turn on a dime. They're pretty nifty.

With as much industry up the the North East, there's bound to be someone up there that can do this.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:15 pm
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

That is why I said it is a sore subject. Yes there are companies to move heavy loads. The problem is MONEY

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Cloudy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:00 pm
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

The Somua & Panzer 35(t) look great - especially the 35(t). I'd leave it in panzer gray.

Alan
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum