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US Army AFVs from eBay
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Here's a few ID features....

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Hi Don! Hi Folks!

Very good catch! The skirt has been cut away from the sprocket area.

1. The T28 at Knox still has a full set of skirts!
2. Could it be that something was learned during the testing of the T28 about putting skirts over the sprocket area? Then forgotten and had to be relearned during the M1's deployment.

While we can not tell which T28 that one is, open sprocket vis covered maybe our guide to which one we are viewing.
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Come on, guys, look again . . . that "skirt" is not cut away — it can't be: it is integral to the outside track assembly. Look at the drawings . . . the bogey trucks and sprocket mounting is bolted directly to the armor. If you were to cut away that portion of the "skirt" the sprocket would cartwheel right off the spline connecting it to the inner sprocket, and you'd have a mobility-killed T-28. Why, the friction of the track on the loose sprocket would probably burn up the final drive, and probably start a fire.



OK, so maybe that skirt is cut away . . .



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OK, so this Yuma picture was a T28 Superheavy Tank photo that I had never seen before. Another one surfaced recently, in George Bradford's new book "World War II AFV Plans: American Armored Fighting Vehicles". It is towards the back of the book (page 92), and is a rather attractive overhead frontal shot, with a quarter-ton truck for scale and a waving driver. Unfortunately, it looks like the original photo has been retouched a bit, to highlight a few details lost in shadow. Other than that, its a pretty cool picture.



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Hi Buq-Buq! Hi Folks!

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Come on, guys, look again . . . that "skirt" is not cut away — it can't be: it is integral to the outside track assembly. Look at the drawings . . . the bogey trucks and sprocket mounting is bolted directly to the armor. If you were to cut away that portion of the "skirt" the sprocket would cartwheel right off the spline connecting it to the inner sprocket, and you'd have a mobility-killed T-28. Why, the friction of the track on the loose sprocket would probably burn up the final drive, and probably start a fire.

OK, so maybe that skirt is cut away . . .


The outer sprockets must be bolted or welded to the inter set of sprockets for that area of the shirt to be removed.

That means that the outer tracks set can no longer be removed from the hull. When the outer tracks are standing alone that area must be present to hold the sprocket in it's position as part of a separable set of tracks.

That maybe why a single crane is mounted on each side rather than both setting on the side the last set of separable tracks was remounted to the hull.

I think Buq-Buq is on to something, just a case of thinking separated would be a problem rather than combined.

Very Interesting! Shocked
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Patton and Stuart
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That e-bay link that Taranov provided for the half-tracks is like looking into a time capsule. I've spent hours looking at all those photos. They were taken by a G.I. stationed in Italy. Since they are being sold on German e-bay, can one presume that he was killed/captured and the film spent all these years as a war souvenir?
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That e-bay link that Taranov provided for the half-tracks is like looking into a time capsule. I've spent hours looking at all those photos. They were taken by a G.I. stationed in Italy. Since they are being sold on German e-bay, can one presume that he was killed/captured and the film spent all these years as a war souvenir?


You'll notice that the seller's location is Italy, so it may be from a GI who had his European out there or something similar.

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Interesting photos - ex-polish 7TP, captured in France by US Army troops in 1944
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M1917 6-tons, i think
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Hmm nice photos, thanks for showing them.

Just one note, that halftrack is not a tank destroyer, it has the MG pulpit up front (complete with covered M2) and a bunch of stowage in the back.

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Famous PzKpfw I Ausf.A with Breda gun
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- Jens_O_Mehner
Hmm nice photos, thanks for showing them.

Just one note, that halftrack is not a tank destroyer, it has the MG pulpit up front (complete with covered M2) and a bunch of stowage in the back.



But what is the vehicle entering (or exiting) the Landing Craft in the background?

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Realy huge shots pack, american AFVs and artillery only

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:45 am
Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Very interesting pics. Several shots of a M2A2E2 not unlike the one being restored at APG and featured in that thread.

This pic is prominently featured in a book I have, "U.S. Army Photo Album, 1941-1945" on a two-page spread, but is wider and features a few more vehicles, including two motorcycles on the left side. It's cropped in this view (on left and right).

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Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

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