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Ft. Snelling Military Museum - Pics #8 (finale)
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Post subject: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - Pics #8 (finale)

Okay, here's the last batch of photos from the FSMM (I can hear the cheers now!). I'd like to thank you characters for both your tolerance and your comments. You're all helping me learn more about armo(u)r and I appreciate that. Smile

The next several are for Jim Web by request.

Jim, these two pieces weren't labeled by the museum, but it seems safe to assume the short-barreled one is the Russian M-1963 D-30 122mm howitzer, while the looooong-barreled one is the Russian M-1944 D-10 100mm gun.
You%20gotta%20love%20the%20towing%20eye%20on%20the%20muzzle.%20Must've%20been%20just%20great%20for%20rounds%20dispersion.%20%208O%20 The%20museum's%20operational%20M60A3. Can%20anyone%20enlighten%20me%20on%20this%20one?%20M59A1?%20No%20trim%20vane. The%2076mm%20gun%20turret%20for%20the%20M4A1%20under%20restoration%20seen%20in%20Pics%20#7%20batch. More%20spares%20in%20the%20restoration%20area. The%20next%20several%20are%20for%20HellonwheelsV100%20(Dave%20C.)%20by%20request. Dave,%20the%20V100%20looks%20like%20it's%20in%20very%20good%20condition%20and%20is%20operational.%20When%20I%20asked%20about%20it%20after%20not%20seeing%20it%20anywhere,%20the%20museum%20director,%20Nick%20Goodwin,%20was%20kind%20enough%20to%20fire%20it%20up%20and%20back%20it%20out%20of%20its%20field%20shelter%20so%20I%20could%20photograph%20it. Walking%20back%20to%20the%20exit%20gate%20thru%20the%20Army%20Reserve%20vehicle%20park. Anyone%20who%20may%20desire%20to%20fly%20in%20to%20view%20the%20museum's%20collection%20will%20find%20it%20very%20convenient.%20This%20is%20the%20main%20terminal%20of%20the%20Minneapolis/St.%20Paul%20International%20Airport%20across%20the%20field%20to%20the%20southwest%20from%20the%20museum.%20(You're%20looking%20across%20the%20Minnesota%20Air%20National%20Guard%20ramp%20(C-130s)%20located%20on%20the%20east%20side%20of%20the%20field. The%20FSMM%20can%20be%20a%20bit%20confusing%20to%20find.%20You'll%20enter%20the%20Ft.%20Snelling%20reservation%20and%20head%20for%20the%20Minnesota%20Air%20National%20Guard%20area.%20Guards%20at%20the%20gate%20will%20direct%20you%20to%20the%20MN/ANG%20Museum%20where%20you'll%20park. Once%20on%20foot,%20head%20north%20passing%20to%20the%20right%20of%20the%20F-101%20Voodoo,%20and%20you'll%20soon%20come%20to%20the%20FSMM%20gate. Once%20through%20the%20gate,%20you'll%20see%20this%20view%20if%20you%20turn%20around.%20The%20entrance%20gate%20and%20path%20lie%20between%20the%20F-101%20and%20the%20F-102%20Delta%20Dagger.%20At%20the%20extreme%20left%20of%20the%20photo%20you'll%20see%20the%20parking%20lot%20you'll%20use%20just%20under%20the%20tail%20of%20the%20F-89%20Scorpion. If%20time%20permits,%20it's%20worth%20your%20while%20to%20view%20the%20Minnesota%20Air%20National%20Guard%20Museum%20as%20well.%20Here's%20an%20old%20friend......... The%20MN/ANG%20Museum%20is%20housed%20in%20the%20old%20Air%20Defense%20Command%20hangar.%20These%20alert%20hangars%20accommodated%20four%20F-102s%20or%20later%20F-106s%20poised%20behind%20quick-acting%20doors,%20pilots%20strapped%20in%20the%20cockpits,%20ready%20to%20tackle%20the%20Russian%20Bear%20bombers%20as%20they%20flew%20over%20the%20polar%20ice%20cap%20towards%20the%20DEW%20line%20and%20points%20south.... A%20nice%20collection%20of%20aircraft%20awaits%20those%20of%20you%20with%20the%20time%20to%20explore....such%20as%20this%20Boeing%20C-97%20Stratocruiser.

Well, that's it. Hope these have been of some interest....and you can start cheering now. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:32 am
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Bob,
Not, M59, but M113 family. Maybe an M106 type as I think the mounts on the side may be for the mortar baseplate. Without a view of the top hatch, hard for me to say for sure, but I think I see hinges for side opening hatches consistant with mortar carrier...somebody else will know.

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Guns, and APCs, and planes, oh my... Smile Drop in a couple of ironclads, a gunboat and a dreadnought or two, and I'll move.

That there APC is the ole trusty M106- or an M125- (you see this, Jeff?) sans trimvane, the tractor is an M915, and I forgot the designation of the crane. I'm wondering if those Rooshian cum Iraqi guns aren't the same ones I fondled in the holding area at Dhahran AB in '92.

My old friend, the Huey, which I still get to hear regularly (and which evokes memories everytime), the KC-97, which I still remember from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when at Rhein Main AB (four turnin', two burnin'), the F-89, Century series, C-130, and the Rhino... Aaaah, how I long to hear the sound of those big ole J-79s again and see the smoke trail- sniff, it brings a tear to these ole eyes.

Thanks again, Bob, now when did you say your next roadtrip to a museum was? Mr. Green

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Anyone notice something unusual about the C-130?

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she's running with 3 bladed props instead of the normal four blades

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Anyone notice something unusual about the C-130?


Three bladed props? Seen 'em rarely.


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Anyone notice something unusual about the C-130?


"Roman Nose" A-Model with three-bladed props, why do you ask? Cool
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here's the supersize version


six blades

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Jim, these two pieces weren't labeled by the museum, but it seems safe to assume the short-barreled one is the Russian M-1963 D-30 122mm howitzer, while the looooong-barreled one is the Russian M-1944 D-10 100mm gun.


Thanks!

The long-barreled one is an export long barrel [45 calibre] version of the yugoslav Nora - itself a copy of the D-20.

Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:21 pm
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Hi Folks!

- Jens_O_Mehner

That there APC is the ole trusty M106- or an M125- (you see this, Jeff?) sans trimvane,....


That is a M106. The brackets on the side are for the larger part of the base plate and the support arm that holds front leg out in front of the base plate for dismounted operations. Note the smaller center part of the base plate is carried on the right rear fender.



The M125s carried the base plate on top the hull, in front of the cargo hatch to the left rear of the TC's cuplola. There was a cover that protected the tripod which was carried in the area between the cargo hatch and the engine grills to the right of the TC's cuplola.

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Hi Folks!

- Jens_O_Mehner

That there APC is the ole trusty M106- or an M125- (you see this, Jeff?) sans trimvane,....


That is a M106. The brackets on the side are for the larger part of the base plate and the support arm that holds the tube up. Note the smaller center part of the base plate is carried on the right rear fender.



The M125s carried the base plate on top the hull, in front of the cargo hatch to the left rear of the TC's cuplola. There was a cover that covered up the tripod which was carried in the area between the cargo hatch and the engine grills to the right of the TC's cuplola.

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YeHaw...I got one right!
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YeHaw...I got one right!


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Hi Bob (A109) Hi Folks!

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Truly, you guys are the masters of Time, Space, and Dimension!


As individuals, we know only bits and pieces, but as a group WE know EVERYTHING! Razz Razz Razz Razz


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The Russian M-1963 D-30 122mm howitzer is correct - sorta Its an iraqi produced version called... suprisingley enough 'Saddam'.

That particular M60A3, purely for reference, is an upgraded from an M60A1 AOS....

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Hi Folks!
That is a M106. The brackets on the side are for the larger part of the base plate and the support arm that holds front leg out in front of the base plate for dismounted operations. Note the smaller center part of the base plate is carried on the right rear fender.

The M125s carried the base plate on top the hull, in front of the cargo hatch to the left rear of the TC's cuplola. There was a cover that protected the tripod which was carried in the area between the cargo hatch and the engine grills to the right of the TC's cuplola.

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D'oh- I was so fixated with the roof hatch mounts I didn't even notice the brackets... Now where is the smiley that bangs his head on the wall?

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