±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 765
Total: 765
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: News Archive
08: Member Screenshots
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Your Account
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Photo Gallery
27: Your Account
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Your Account
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Member Screenshots
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Photo Gallery
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Photo Gallery
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Photo Gallery
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Statistics
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: Home
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Your Account
77: Your Account
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Photo Gallery
94: Statistics
95: Photo Gallery
96: Community Forums
97: Your Account
98: News
99: Home
100: CPGlang
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Downloads
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Member Screenshots
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Downloads
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Downloads
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Downloads
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Your Account
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Downloads
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Statistics
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Statistics
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Downloads
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Your Account
152: Community Forums
153: Downloads
154: Community Forums
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Downloads
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Photo Gallery
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: News Archive
174: Downloads
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Downloads
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Member Screenshots
188: Photo Gallery
189: Downloads
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Downloads
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: News
200: Home
201: Member Screenshots
202: Community Forums
203: Photo Gallery
204: Home
205: Photo Gallery
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Photo Gallery
215: Community Forums
216: Downloads
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Home
221: Downloads
222: Community Forums
223: Downloads
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Home
227: News Archive
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Downloads
238: Photo Gallery
239: Photo Gallery
240: Community Forums
241: Downloads
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Photo Gallery
245: CPGlang
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Downloads
256: Home
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Your Account
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Downloads
267: Downloads
268: Community Forums
269: Downloads
270: Community Forums
271: Photo Gallery
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Photo Gallery
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Downloads
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Statistics
286: Member Screenshots
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Downloads
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Member Screenshots
319: Community Forums
320: Photo Gallery
321: Downloads
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Downloads
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Home
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Downloads
346: Community Forums
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Photo Gallery
362: Home
363: Downloads
364: Photo Gallery
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Your Account
368: Home
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Your Account
372: Downloads
373: Home
374: Home
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Downloads
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: News Archive
383: Member Screenshots
384: Photo Gallery
385: Downloads
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Downloads
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Downloads
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Your Account
407: Photo Gallery
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Your Account
417: Your Account
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Home
421: Downloads
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Downloads
432: Community Forums
433: Home
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Photo Gallery
439: Community Forums
440: Downloads
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Home
448: Community Forums
449: Statistics
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Photo Gallery
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Home
460: Home
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Downloads
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Downloads
474: Community Forums
475: Search
476: Photo Gallery
477: Downloads
478: Downloads
479: Community Forums
480: Your Account
481: Home
482: Photo Gallery
483: Downloads
484: Community Forums
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Downloads
490: Community Forums
491: Downloads
492: Photo Gallery
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Photo Gallery
502: Home
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Downloads
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Home
516: Downloads
517: Downloads
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Home
522: Home
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Photo Gallery
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Downloads
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Downloads
539: Community Forums
540: Home
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Community Forums
552: Home
553: Downloads
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Photo Gallery
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Downloads
566: Downloads
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Home
570: Downloads
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Downloads
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Your Account
581: Home
582: Home
583: Home
584: Downloads
585: Community Forums
586: Photo Gallery
587: Home
588: Downloads
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Home
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Photo Gallery
604: Photo Gallery
605: Downloads
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Photo Gallery
611: Home
612: Community Forums
613: Photo Gallery
614: Community Forums
615: Downloads
616: Photo Gallery
617: Home
618: Community Forums
619: News Archive
620: Community Forums
621: Photo Gallery
622: Photo Gallery
623: Photo Gallery
624: Photo Gallery
625: Downloads
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: Photo Gallery
631: Photo Gallery
632: Photo Gallery
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Your Account
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: CPGlang
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Home
645: Home
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Home
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Photo Gallery
655: Community Forums
656: Home
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Downloads
660: Community Forums
661: Downloads
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Home
665: Photo Gallery
666: Community Forums
667: Photo Gallery
668: Community Forums
669: Photo Gallery
670: Downloads
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Community Forums
674: Home
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Photo Gallery
680: Community Forums
681: Downloads
682: Photo Gallery
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Downloads
693: Downloads
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Photo Gallery
698: Downloads
699: Community Forums
700: Statistics
701: Community Forums
702: Photo Gallery
703: Community Forums
704: Downloads
705: Photo Gallery
706: Downloads
707: Community Forums
708: Home
709: Member Screenshots
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Photo Gallery
714: Photo Gallery
715: Downloads
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: Photo Gallery
719: Downloads
720: Home
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Downloads
724: Photo Gallery
725: Community Forums
726: Community Forums
727: Community Forums
728: Photo Gallery
729: Photo Gallery
730: Downloads
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: Downloads
736: Downloads
737: Photo Gallery
738: Community Forums
739: Community Forums
740: Photo Gallery
741: Community Forums
742: Photo Gallery
743: Community Forums
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Community Forums
748: Community Forums
749: Community Forums
750: Photo Gallery
751: Photo Gallery
752: Photo Gallery
753: Community Forums
754: Community Forums
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Community Forums
758: Community Forums
759: Community Forums
760: Community Forums
761: Community Forums
762: Photo Gallery
763: Community Forums
764: Community Forums
765: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:33 pm
Post subject: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

Apart from the wreck that was seen in Kabul a few years ago, this s the only survivor. The tyres says it was used after the thirties.

Most likely in anti-partisan warfare after 1943, by either the germans or RSI (but this is just speculation).











Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

It probably was a Lancia 1ZM originally but they were all modernised and renamed Lancia 1ZM Modello 1930 (yeah nit-picking I know) with new wheels, tyres and MG in 1930. The actual armoured bodies were first used on the Ansaldo AB M1915 armoured cars.

Interestingly enough these were all supposed to have been lost in Italian East Africa or Libya in WW2.. Maybe it was originally at some training unit in Italy?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:58 am
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

Interestingly enough these were all supposed to have been lost in Italian East Africa or Libya in WW2


Quite a few were used for anti-partisan warfare after 1943, both by german and RSI units. Pictures and documents prove this. More info available inside some italian books:
www.zimmerit.com/zimme...rafia.html

Unfortunately I was so far unable to associated this vehicle with its former unit. For the two L 3s stored in the same Museum instead, there is some evidence they served in the "Gruppo Squadroni Corazzati San Giusto" before being acquired by Diego de Henriquez.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

- Massimo_Foti
Interestingly enough these were all supposed to have been lost in Italian East Africa or Libya in WW2


Quite a few were used for anti-partisan warfare after 1943, both by german and RSI units. Pictures and documents prove this. More info available inside some italian books:

Massimo


My italian is non-existant... any idea how many were used?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:23 am
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

My italian is non-existant... any idea how many were used?

Recent italian books may give us a pretty clear estimation of the AFVs used by RSI units. I am thinking about "REPARTI CORAZZATI DELLA REPUBBLICA SOCIALE ITALIANA 1943/1945" by Paolo Crippa, "COME IL DIAMANTE - I carristi italiani 1943-1945" by Sergio Corbatti and Marco Nava and "FORZE ARMATE DELLA RSI 1943-1945 'Forze di terra" by Carlo Cucut.

As far as I know things are less clear as far as the ones used by the germans.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

I was looking for pictures in Wikipedia and fund this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...hwagen.jpg

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:50 am
Post subject: Re: Trieste, Museo Diego de Henriquez: Lancia 1Z

A newspaper published an article on the collection, with some short extracts from Diego de Henriquez's diaries (he left dozen of diaries, covering a very long period). From the diaries we learn that this armoured car was recovered in october 1945 by de Henriquez, autorized by the local administration. After the WW II, two such cars were fund inside Caserma Ettore Muti (caserma is italian for barracks), then moved to viale Miramare (Miramare boulevard). From there de Henriquez pick the one in better conditions.

This is interesting both because we learn about the recovery date, and because it tells at least another vehicle survived WW II in the same area. Still we don't know if this armoured car was used by italian or german forces after 1943.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum