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#196: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:58 pm
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Another tank that is usually not on display. It belongs to the Vereain Centurion association, who collaborates with the Museum:

Centurion M-78520 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#197: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm
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This tanl is usually held in storage:

Pz 68/88 M-78073 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#198: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm
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Bridgelayer Pz 68 in action:

Bpz 68 M-77884 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#199: Re: Saurer Author: zemsi, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:00 pm
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- Massimo_Foti

Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton

I would go for a 2.5t. I took another pic in "better" angle
www.flickr.com/photos/...336047996/

The M+ number is most likely wrong. It belonged most likely to a tractor.

#200: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 am
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This one is a new acquisition. It's missing from the PDF:

ZSU-23-4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#201: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:14 am
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Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton

Massimo

#202: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Costas_TT,

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:34 pm
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Is it a 2.5-ton, or a 5-ton truck? The a 2.5-ton Saurer 1CR1D is visually very similar to the 5-ton 4CT1D. Bart Vanderveen describes the former (in The Observer's Army Vehicles to 1940 Directory) as basically a civilian model modified with a radiator brush guard, towing attachments, etc, to meet the military's specs and powered by a 65 bhp 4-cyl gasoline engine. The 5-ton truck had a 6-cyl diesel producing 100 bhp.
If you had a profile pic, it would be easier to tell, based on the length of the cargo bed. from this angle, it looks like it has the shorter bed of the 2.5-tonner.

#203: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Walter, Location: Arnhem

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:08 pm
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Should be a Saurer 4CT1D 4x2 Cargo Truck
Here is one more ,also swiss number
www.google.nl/imgres?q...0,s:0,i:80

Walter

#204: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:24 am
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This is the last id missing. It's a Saurer truck, from the look it seems a model from the thirties. But I am unable to find the exact id:

Saurer truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#205: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:22 am
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Pretty cool early model Opel Blitz:

Opel Blitz Ambulance by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#206: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Costas_TT,

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:26 am
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You are welcome!
Edit: The SUMB has remarkably made appearances in mainstream movies, like Bad Boys II...
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-1954.html
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-SUMB.html
pics.imcdb.org/0is343/...y.2420.jpg

And I remembered an incident I was called to during my Army days when an M911 T-boned an old Opel Ascona, fortunately without injuries to anyone.

#207: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:22 am
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Thanks!

Massimo

#208: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Costas_TT,

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 am
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The tractor is easy: Oshkosh M911.
The little French truck is a Simca-Unic-Marmon-Bocquet MH600BS.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...746.2FM747
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simca_Marmon
commons.wikimedia.org/...MB_MH600BS

Last edited by Costas_TT on Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:24 am; edited 1 time in total

#209: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:56 am
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I am looking for the model of this one too:

Sigma-Unic by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

#210: Re: Full Militärmuseum Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:54 am
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We saw this truck during the event. Do you know the exact model?

Oshkosh truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

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