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Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed

#1: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:08 am
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Based on the conversation I had last week I asked around with the Ordnance Museum staff and they were able to locate and send to me scans of the 1945 inventory.

Highlights so far:

FMCV76 "Tank, Heavy, Panther" [Ausf G] On Hand: 14
FMCV93 "Tank, Heavy, PzKpw King Tiger" On Hand: 2 [One of these is the Armor Museum's]
FMCV 111 "Hull, Tank, PzKpw Tiger II" On Hand: 14

I also jumped when I saw "Tank, Panther, PzKw 5, Model F" - but its listed as FMCV184, which is the Ausf A...

Naturally, I'll need some help with correctly identifying some. For example, here's the first one I need help with:

"Gun, 7.5 cm, Pak 39/3 SP on Czech 38/3 chassis (Pz Jager fur 7.5 cm Pak 39/3)"

Thanks,

Neil

#2: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Dontos, Location: Vine Grove, KY

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:57 am
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"Gun, 7.5 cm, Pak 39/3 SP on Czech 38/3 chassis (Pz Jager fur 7.5 cm Pak 39/3)"

Sounds like Marder but that has a Pak 40 (7.5 cm).

Regards
Don

#3: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:23 am
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Yeah, it sounds like a Marder III - but the "38/3" "39/3" stuff is throwing me off.

But "Czech 38/3" could be the Czechoslovak 38(t) chassis - ie a Hetzer, which did indeed have a Pak 39 gun...

Neil

#4: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Dontos, Location: Vine Grove, KY

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:12 am
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I'm wondering.....

FMCV 111 "Hull, Tank, PzKpw Tiger II" On Hand: 14

Would this mean 14 Tiger II hulls?? Where the hell did they dissappear to...???

I would assume this volume of German tanks would have shipping manifests, ......somewhere!?

Regards
Don

#5: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: VonForhud,

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:11 pm
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I think its a Marder III as well. The sad thing with metadata is they are never faultless.

#6: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:17 pm
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- Dontos

I'm wondering.....

FMCV 111 "Hull, Tank, PzKpw Tiger II" On Hand: 14

Would this mean 14 Tiger II hulls?? Where the hell did they dissappear to...???

I would assume this volume of German tanks would have shipping manifests, ......somewhere!?

Regards
Don

Don,
I interpret this to mean 14 hulls (without turrets). I wouldnt be surprised if they pulled them incomplete off a captured production line?

Good luck finding those manifests...

In the case of the museum's Tiger I, it was sent back as scrap at the end of WWII and JB Jarrett saved it from the scrapyard.

Neil

#7: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Pzkpfw-e,

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:25 pm
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I'd guess the hulls were sent to the ranges, shot to high heaven & what was left was recycled as razor blades!

#8: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:43 am
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Here's the next item, hoping our Jiri or someone can help with this one:

"Gun, 8 cm, IK 30 Skoda, w/carriage" On Hand: 1

#9: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:06 am
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Massimo,
Are you familiar with the designation "Geb H. 2541" [German?] for an M40 da 75/18 75mm field howitzer?

Neil

#10: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:13 am
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Next mystery:

"Howitzer, 7.5 cm, SP on 3 ton armored half-track."

Okay, a 3-ton half-track should be an SdKfz 11... But armored? They were used as prime movers for 7.5cm howitzers, but an SP?

Neil

#11: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:26 am
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- Neil_Baumgardner

Massimo,
Are you familiar with the designation "Geb H. 2541" [German?] for an M40 da 75/18 75mm field howitzer?

No, not at all

Massimo

#12: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Dontos, Location: Vine Grove, KY

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:03 am
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- Neil_Baumgardner

Next mystery:

"Howitzer, 7.5 cm, SP on 3 ton armored half-track."

Okay, a 3-ton half-track should be an SdKfz 11... But armored? They were used as prime movers for 7.5cm howitzers, but an SP?

Neil

How about Sd Kfz 250/8 or Sd Kfz 251/9?

#13: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Pzkpfw-e,

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:33 pm
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Sdkfz 251/9 ?

#14: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Pzkpfw-e,

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:41 pm
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- Neil_Baumgardner

Here's the next item, hoping our Jiri or someone can help with this one:

"Gun, 8 cm, IK 30 Skoda, w/carriage" On Hand: 1

How about "Gun, 8 cm, FK 30 Skoda, w/carriage"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...non_vz._30

#15: Re: Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VA

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:43 pm
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- Massimo_Foti

- Neil_Baumgardner

Massimo,
Are you familiar with the designation "Geb H. 2541" [German?] for an M40 da 75/18 75mm field howitzer?

No, not at all

Massimo

Well, Geb H is the abbreviation for Gebirgshaubitze. I can only wonder if that was the designation used by the German occupation forces that used the M40 da 75/18?

Neil

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