If a Hetzer is still carrying all its Swiss modifications, then it is a G-13, if it has been back dated to its original configuration, it is once again a Hetzer.
If a Sherman is modified or rebuilt after the war
PS I guess now we could start debating how many G-13's parts came from existing WW II stocks, or were build from scratch
G-13 mounted StuK 40 guns instead of Pak 39.
Then, most likely, those StuK 40 guns came from existing stocks, dating back to WW II. So the "post-war" argument is, again, somewhat blurry.
Massimo
So every thing with an muzzle brake or an threaded barrel end is in fact an G13
Most 'G13' are actually G14 with the diesel engine anyway. Its just that everyone has got too lazy to bother to use the correct designation so they remain G13...
- Michel_KraussJim,
Most 'G13' are actually G14 with the diesel engine anyway. Its just that everyone has got too lazy to bother to use the correct designation so they remain G13...
that is not completly true
The Swiss army had 158 G-13 of which 86 where modified to an Saurer-Arbon 12 Cyl Dieselengine with Allison gearbox between 1952 and 1954
These 86 rebuilds became the G-14's
When production of the G-13 ended in 1950 there where not enough spare parts left
Info from the German site panzerbaer.de
However this also means that the one at the Overloon Museum is in fact an G-14, because I have picture's of the Sauer Diesel engine
Michel
About this designation on G-13 and G-14, according some German speaking site's it is not certain that this was an official designation
- Massimo_FotiAbout this designation on G-13 and G-14, according some German speaking site's it is not certain that this was an official designation
The G-14 designation is hardly ever used even in swiss literature. But I am unable to deny or confirm if it was used by the swiss army at some point
Massimo
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