±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 538
Total: 538
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Downloads
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: CPGlang
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Member Screenshots
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Downloads
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Member Screenshots
40: Home
41: Photo Gallery
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Your Account
58: Downloads
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Home
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Member Screenshots
75: Photo Gallery
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: News
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Your Account
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Downloads
86: News
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Member Screenshots
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Your Account
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Downloads
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Your Account
121: Home
122: Photo Gallery
123: Home
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Photo Gallery
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Photo Gallery
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Your Account
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Photo Gallery
163: Photo Gallery
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: CPGlang
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Photo Gallery
202: Your Account
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: CPGlang
211: Community Forums
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Downloads
222: CPGlang
223: Photo Gallery
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Member Screenshots
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Member Screenshots
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Downloads
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Your Account
239: Photo Gallery
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Photo Gallery
243: Photo Gallery
244: Photo Gallery
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Your Account
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: CPGlang
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Photo Gallery
259: Photo Gallery
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Statistics
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Photo Gallery
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Your Account
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Statistics
313: Photo Gallery
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Member Screenshots
324: Photo Gallery
325: Community Forums
326: Your Account
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Downloads
331: Community Forums
332: News Archive
333: Photo Gallery
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: CPGlang
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Photo Gallery
348: Community Forums
349: Your Account
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Photo Gallery
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Photo Gallery
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Your Account
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Home
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Downloads
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Downloads
381: Photo Gallery
382: Home
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Photo Gallery
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Photo Gallery
391: Photo Gallery
392: CPGlang
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Photo Gallery
410: Community Forums
411: Photo Gallery
412: Your Account
413: Member Screenshots
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Your Account
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Photo Gallery
428: News
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Home
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Home
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: News
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Statistics
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Photo Gallery
479: Downloads
480: Downloads
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: CPGlang
485: Photo Gallery
486: Community Forums
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Photo Gallery
490: Photo Gallery
491: Home
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Downloads
507: Community Forums
508: CPGlang
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Photo Gallery
519: Community Forums
520: Member Screenshots
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Downloads
527: Statistics
528: Downloads
529: Photo Gallery
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:05 pm
Post subject: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hello, here is my list of still existing Hetzer and G-13 tanks. This one is incomplete, so would you tell me if you know other Hetzers or G-13 in museums, private owners...

Original Hetzers :

Kubinka Tank Museum (Russia) 2 tanks
Camp Borden (Canada)
Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum (USA)
Polish Military Museum, Warsaw (Poland)
Army technical museum, Lesany (CZ) (without gun)
Museum on Demarcation line, Rokycany (CZ) : wreck
Pansarmuseet Axvall (Sweden)
Another wreck, location unknown, might be in Poland

Modified G-13 :

Panzermuseum Munster (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany) : unmodified G13
Militärhistorischen Museum der Bundeswehr, Dresden (Germany)
Saumur Tank Museum (France)
Saumur Tank Museum (France) : running condition
Bovington Tank Museum (UK)
Military History National Museum, Diekirch (Luxembourg)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Morges (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Brussels Tank Museum (Belgium)
Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)
Battle of Normandy Museum, Bayeux (France)
Army Technical Museum, Lesany (CZ)
ASPHM association, La Wantzenau, Strasbourg (France) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Musée de l’abri, Hatten (France)
Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas (USA)
Wings of Liberation Museum, Best (Netherlands)
Littlefield collection, Portola (USA)
Pansaarmuseet, Axvall (Sweden) : unmodified G13
Imperial War Museum Duxford (UK) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13

Patton Museum, Fort Knox (USA) (need a photo)
Rusk Toyland Combat Vehicles, Texas (USA) (need a photo)

+ 1 Hetzer shown in Beltring (owner unknown)

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates


Last edited by the_shadock on Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

- the_shadock

Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13


The VMMV one was originally a G-13. They have modded it to look like an original Hetzer. I have before & after pictures...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd Panzer re-enacted in IL has one
There is also one in private hands here in MI
I think both are modded G13's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Some pics of the VMMV G-13, post-Hetzer mod:





Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

The Patton Museum's G13 / Hetzer:

I have more, but here is one from May 2005:




Several photos Linked here: Armor for the Ages: Atlanta June 05

Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:38 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd panzer


Dave Crompton's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

BTW in Kubinka preserved only one Jagdpanzer 38 (t)


It's a late series vehicle, serial number 1775. Current painscheme - restored original painscheme of this Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Taranov, thanks for the info. I got some pics of this Hetzer in Kubinka, with 2 different paints and marking, and I thought they had 2 of those vehicles.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
zundappuk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 65
Location: Behind the Westwall, really!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Original Hetzers in UK.

Bovington Tank Museum

Private owner, friend of mine (as seen at Beltring etc)

Unrestored example, Private owner.

The IWM Duxford example is a G13, but hull number indicates origianl re-worked.

David
Back to top
View user's profile
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:05 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I'd classify the Hetzer at MPW Warszawa as a wreck. Whenever I see pictures of it I wonder if someone was in it when it was hit *shrug*... "tin can" or "tin opener" comes to mind.

Link to MPW pictures:

MPW Warszawa pictures

Rik

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Andre_Flener
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 17
Location: G.D. of Luxembourg
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:19 pm
Post subject: G-13 at the Bastogne Historical Center

Re:

- Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
- Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)


Salut Pierre-Olivier,

well, the Bastogne Historical Center has only one 're-germanized' G-13; which had been donated by the Swiss in the late 1970's.

Until the end of 2004 (year of the 60th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge), it had been on display in front of the building, first in winter-wash, then later in sandfarben colour. In 2004, the museum was a little bit renovated and the G-13 - repainted in an ambush scheme - moved inside, where it now stands inside the German diorama.

Some 'before/after' photos:

Pre-2004:


(Source of this image)

Post-2004:


(Source of this image)

Summary: it's the very same tank!

Hope this helps!

Regards,
André Flener
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Merci André.. Wink

One less Hetzer !! However it's always a pleasure to see one more tank "inside".

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

G-13 Tank Destroyer (??) - 2nd Panzer Division Association, IL (USA)

In new camouflage
www.flickr.com/photos/...559463281/
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hi P-O

there is also an G13 at the Overloon museum, modified to look like een WW2 Hetzer



Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
vmmv1
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 75
Location: virginia
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I am fascinated by the concept that there is a difference between a G 13 and a Hetzer. People act like they are two different things? If a Sherman is modified or rebuilt after the war and is given another name, then restored back to original configuration, no one calls it anything but a Sherman??? If a Hetzer is still carrying all its Swiss modifications, then it is a G-13, if it has been back dated to its original configuration, it is once again a Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 4
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum