±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 616
Total: 616
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Member Screenshots
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Downloads
25: CPGlang
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Community Forums
37: Your Account
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Statistics
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Photo Gallery
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Photo Gallery
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Search
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Photo Gallery
89: Your Account
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Downloads
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Supporters
120: Photo Gallery
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Home
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Your Account
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Downloads
137: Home
138: Photo Gallery
139: Downloads
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Member Screenshots
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Downloads
156: Photo Gallery
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Member Screenshots
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Home
183: Home
184: News Archive
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: News
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: CPGlang
194: Photo Gallery
195: Photo Gallery
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Your Account
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Downloads
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Downloads
222: Your Account
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Your Account
227: CPGlang
228: Downloads
229: Member Screenshots
230: Member Screenshots
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Photo Gallery
235: Photo Gallery
236: Home
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Your Account
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Downloads
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Member Screenshots
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Photo Gallery
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Downloads
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Your Account
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Photo Gallery
276: Member Screenshots
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: CPGlang
281: Photo Gallery
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Photo Gallery
298: News
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Photo Gallery
308: Home
309: Member Screenshots
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: CPGlang
319: Community Forums
320: Member Screenshots
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: CPGlang
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Home
331: Home
332: Photo Gallery
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Home
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Photo Gallery
347: Community Forums
348: Downloads
349: Community Forums
350: Photo Gallery
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Your Account
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Photo Gallery
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: CPGlang
368: Photo Gallery
369: Photo Gallery
370: Community Forums
371: Home
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Photo Gallery
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Your Account
384: Search
385: Community Forums
386: Your Account
387: CPGlang
388: Photo Gallery
389: Downloads
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Photo Gallery
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Community Forums
413: Downloads
414: Community Forums
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Photo Gallery
422: Photo Gallery
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Member Screenshots
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Photo Gallery
438: Home
439: Photo Gallery
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Statistics
444: Photo Gallery
445: Photo Gallery
446: Downloads
447: Member Screenshots
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Your Account
455: Photo Gallery
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Photo Gallery
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Your Account
467: Community Forums
468: Member Screenshots
469: Home
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Photo Gallery
474: Community Forums
475: Your Account
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Photo Gallery
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Downloads
483: Community Forums
484: Member Screenshots
485: Statistics
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Photo Gallery
494: Photo Gallery
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Downloads
499: News
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Home
503: News Archive
504: CPGlang
505: Community Forums
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Photo Gallery
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Member Screenshots
519: Community Forums
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Community Forums
526: Your Account
527: Community Forums
528: Member Screenshots
529: Home
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Member Screenshots
534: Downloads
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Photo Gallery
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Photo Gallery
543: News Archive
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Photo Gallery
551: Home
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Photo Gallery
555: Home
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Home
562: Community Forums
563: Home
564: Downloads
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: News Archive
573: Home
574: Community Forums
575: CPGlang
576: CPGlang
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Downloads
581: Member Screenshots
582: Community Forums
583: Downloads
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: CPGlang
589: Home
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Home
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Downloads
598: Photo Gallery
599: Home
600: Community Forums
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Downloads
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: Photo Gallery
612: Photo Gallery
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
PreservedTanks.com
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:19 am
Post subject: PreservedTanks.com

I've put together a new website to put online the contents of my books on preserved tanks. I've started by putting up Preserved German Tanks 1: A7V to Panzer IV first. The site's still a bit rough, but I thought you guys might be interesting in seeing it even at an early stage:

www.preservedtanks.com

I've got loads of information backed up that I can use to update the books, and I'll add that soon - after that I hope you guys will be up for helping me with any remaining corrections/updates required.

I've also revamped the existing site at Armour Archive. The idea is to keep the commercial stuff (selling books) in a separate site from the preserved tanks information so people can just browse. I'll upload some more of my free PDF booklets soon too.

Any feedback appreciated. As the sites develop I'll post some more info in this thread.

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:49 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

There is a narrow course that old school academics followed to establish their credentials. Publish or perish was the only choice. Printed books were vital (in the vitality, sense of the word) to a scholar's knowledge and in return acceptance. Nowadays, free on line content is the expectation, and few people seem interested in building personal libraries. Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?

Your principle of gathering data, sorting it into categories, forming conclusions from that data, and proceeding out into the world with new ideas is stock in trade for an academic. I will be looking forward to your posts and to your page. This forum has had some substantial academic contributors, as has George Bradford's parallel paper AFV News publication. Which I admit to not having paid to subscribe to in several years ...

TW, BA (Hist, Bishop's 82)
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:27 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Maple Leaf said:
Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?


But it's not, not really. Too many of these on-line fact sites are filled with bad info or are supporting a particular point of view, many times bending the truth or out right lying. The real shame is when some well intentioned person erects an info plaque based on a web search for a VFW, or in some case a museum for a particular vehicle, the bad info is now taken for fact. "It must be because I read it at the museum."

Prime example is the unnamed M113 advocate that some of our DG members have dealt with in the past.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
palic
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 03, 2006
Posts: 172

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:41 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Hi Trevor,
you can add some data to your blog: the vehicles seen during transport are BVP-1 (Czechoslovak-made BMP-1) and 9K113/9P148 Mobile ATGM Launcher (with Konkurs ATGMs) on BRDM-2 chassis (NATO Code AT-5 Spandrel).
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:41 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

- Maple_Leaf_Eh
Nowadays, free on line content is the expectation, and few people seem interested in building personal libraries. Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?



But 'free online content' is only there as long as someone is paying the bill. There have been many snippets (or whole rivers) of information that I know I have seen online but are either no longer there or have been lost in the electronic equivalant of the Mississippi River at full flood stage.

One example was the 'AFV Interiors' site that was so popular it couldn't find a home that could handle the traffic.

Then there is the way we access information. Although in the last year I have finally begun to listen to books on CD during my commute (I finally realized that listening to traffic reports doesn't do much good when there is no viable alternative route Crying or Very sad ) I still have a book at my bedside that I try and read some from every night before I admit that I am actually asleep, one in the truck that I am working through at lunch each day and yes two that I grab when I am heading to the bathroom (The one at work is a thinner paperback that slides inconspiciously into a pocket Rolling Eyes )

This is all in addition to the time I spend looking at content online.

Each method has it's advantages and disadvantages.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:42 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

[quote="bsmart"]
- Maple_Leaf_Eh
Nowadays, free on line content is the expectation, and few people seem interested in building personal libraries. Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?


But 'free online content' is only there as long as someone is paying the bill.


Some people would turn grey and die at the thought of how much money my web site costs me each month - I have had to resort to a web server at home to cut costs as there isn't a free ISP in existance that will carry 12Gb and I still have to pick up the bill for the excess traffic. Hopefully I will be able to switch to an SDSL line soon so it will ease a little.

Those people that don't care are usually the ones who go all apoplectic when you dare suggest a cash contribution would help the site out...

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:36 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Same "problem" for me, my 2 websites are free for visitors. I publish free galleries of AFVs on the Tanks in France website, and my aim is to picture each tank that is in the "France Historical AFVs Register".

It's quite expensive for me in petrol/gas, museums fees to pay and overall it requires a lot of time.

But what would I do if I didn't do that? Well I prefer to do that instead of watching stupid things on the TV !!

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:31 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

I did run the site as a subscription site for a while - what killed that wasn't the complaints about it being a sub-site but the fact that passwords & logins were constantly being posted on crack sites. I'm having a change of tactics now and going for the 'subscribe for enhanced content' route I think but thats going to be a long time coming...

I still have about 15 cubic metres of images and notes to add to the web site - less the stuff which comes in on a daily basis. And your right adding stuff to the web site beats the hell out of watching some of the mindless drivel that appears on the TV!

Now if I could only persuade every regular visitor to the site to donate just $1 per month I would be able to afford a T1 line....

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:12 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

- Maple_Leaf_Eh
This forum has had some substantial academic contributors, as has George Bradford's parallel paper AFV News publication. Which I admit to not having paid to subscribe to in several years ...

TW, BA (Hist, Bishop's 82)


This forum also facilitates, via links to some of the websites cited in this thread (among others) and some direct downloads a not-insignificant amount of content and reduction of mis-information by informed participation (mis-impressions are usually quickly corrected, generally in a tactful way).

Contributions to Com-Central hosts by AFV Forum members have not exceeded three, and it might only be two.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:03 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Speaking of contributions - I assume that Aberdeen have abandoned their building plan?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Tichenor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
Posts: 461
Location: Antwerp
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:40 am
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Hi Trevor
My first reaction was d**n the same layout I'm using for my database , witch is still under development, but so wat. It isn't the layout of the site that counts but whats published on it, and that seems to me a great source of reliable information.
Let the next chapter come!
Michel
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:55 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Thanks everyone for the response! I posted at lunchtime, checked again at bedtime, and the thread was empty. I thought it would die without trace - but I guess it was just the effect of different time zones. The fact the site has had 500+ visitors in its first week is a huge encouragement (though I suspect you gentleman are the largest part of that!).


- Maple_Leaf_Eh
There is a narrow course that old school academics followed to establish their credentials. Publish or perish was the only choice. Printed books were vital (in the vitality, sense of the word) to a scholar's knowledge and in return acceptance. Nowadays, free on line content is the expectation, and few people seem interested in building personal libraries. Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?

Your principle of gathering data, sorting it into categories, forming conclusions from that data, and proceeding out into the world with new ideas is stock in trade for an academic. I will be looking forward to your posts and to your page. This forum has had some substantial academic contributors, as has George Bradford's parallel paper AFV News publication. Which I admit to not having paid to subscribe to in several years ...

TW, BA (Hist, Bishop's 82)


Thanks Maple_Leaf_Eh for the comments, I'll take them as positive. That is, I can agree with both points of view - that doing substantial, detailed ('academic') research is the right way to go. And that everyone expects everything to be free on the Internet. I hope I have chosen the right course by having an entirely free website containing valuable information on preserved tanks that is accessible to everyone. At the same time, the serious enthusiasts and researchers will not complain about paying $20 for a book that holds the same information, because that is a permanent and useful tool (especially once you start including your own notes and cross references, etc.). Not to mention, that I actively wish to encourage people to go exploring areas containing preserved tanks (e.g. the Normandy area in Preserved Tanks in France) and so the books are a convenient pocket size for handy reference. You just can't do the same with a website, however portable your laptop.

My view of, and experience in, these matters is probably unusual, being both academically qualified and an ex tank troop leader - I think it gives me a unique viewpoint that I try to bring to bear in my work. Having also been doing it for 25 years also provides its own perspective. The fact that my day job is software development and that as part of it I am currently learning database management is serendipity, and something for which I will be eternally grateful.


- palic
Hi Trevor,
you can add some data to your blog: the vehicles seen during transport are BVP-1 (Czechoslovak-made BMP-1) and 9K113/9P148 Mobile ATGM Launcher (with Konkurs ATGMs) on BRDM-2 chassis (NATO Code AT-5 Spandrel).


Thanks for that, palic, that is exactly the kind of precise detail I strive for. I have expertise in many areas, though particularly Second World War German tanks, but Soviet infantry vehicles (nevermind Czech variations) is not one of those areas. Many thanks for the information; I have added an update to the blog entry.


- bsmart
- Maple_Leaf_Eh
Nowadays, free on line content is the expectation, and few people seem interested in building personal libraries. Why pay for something, when everything imagineable is just as available on line?



But 'free online content' is only there as long as someone is paying the bill. There have been many snippets (or whole rivers) of information that I know I have seen online but are either no longer there or have been lost in the electronic equivalant of the Mississippi River at full flood stage.

One example was the 'AFV Interiors' site that was so popular it couldn't find a home that could handle the traffic.


I agree entirely, and particularly mourn AFV Interiors which was way ahead of most sites in terms of quality and integrity. I think longer term the answer has to be advertising, like Google, so long as it is done carefully and sensitively. I would be only to happy to visit AFV Interiors if it was still around whether it was funded by adverts or not.


- JimWeb
Some people would turn grey and die at the thought of how much money my web site costs me each month - I have had to resort to a web server at home to cut costs as there isn't a free ISP in existance that will carry 12Gb and I still have to pick up the bill for the excess traffic. Hopefully I will be able to switch to an SDSL line soon so it will ease a little.

Those people that don't care are usually the ones who go all apoplectic when you dare suggest a cash contribution would help the site out...


I understand completely, and don't envy you having to host storage-hungry video footage - something I have no plans to try!


- Tichenor
Hi Trevor
My first reaction was d**n the same layout I'm using for my database , witch is still under development, but so wat. It isn't the layout of the site that counts but whats published on it, and that seems to me a great source of reliable information.
Let the next chapter come!
Michel


I'll take that as a compliment - thanks! I'm more than happy to discuss technical details and help people out with stuff.


Thanks everyone, for your responses. Tomorrow I'm at Duxford and will update preservedtanks.com with new pictures as soon as I can after I'm back:

duxford.iwm.org.uk/ser...Event.2126

_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:03 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

I've wanted to weigh in on this topic, but have had some reservations.

Reference material has not been a particular problem, but my personal collection has primarily been digital copies. Over the past several years that I have pursued the research trail on the Ontos and other topics, I have been fortunate enough to aquire original printed books & manuals. I am a firm believer of printed references, which help to prove a sound base for topic discussion.

I have yet to aquire personal copies of the Hunnicutt series (due to many factors) but would gladly accept any printed reference material as donations to the "Dontos Collection" ( this especially includes any of the Hunnicutt series) Mr. Green

It is my opinion that reliance on electronic media (internet), is a short-cut, which can provide mis-information due to flawed or false references based on tainted agendas or opinions.
Having seen first hand such 'agenda' based information & mis-information based on heresay, causing chapters of military history to be lost to time thru ignorance.
This has been part of my motivation in some of the work I have completed, and continue to work on.


As for the Internet:
I have posted several sites which are a bit amaturish, however free. Although quite restrictive in webpage content, I strive to present quality content and user friendly appearence & functionality. The convience of being free allows me to provide information for those (5 or 6 other Ontos nuts) who might be interested.

My use of websites came from my interest in publishing some of my work, but initial rejections by several publishers, lead me to my current website presentations. Admittedly, my 'Ontos history' website's content is not representative of the depth of the information that I have dug up, but there doesn't seem to be a sizable market which warrent enough interest.

My personal satisfaction has come in my association with the veterans who served on the vehicle, and they are very appreciative of my efforts, as their service & sacrifices have been brought out of historical obscurity and hopefully preserved for furture generations as a part of Marine Corps History & Armor History.

Sorry for my ramblings, (:roll:) but I felt compelled to add my 02 cents to the subject.

Regards,
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:47 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Good debate guys.

If I had to draw a line in the electrons, my paper library is a curse and a blessing. The digital one is a luxury. Access to content is entirely controlled by the site owner. Even last night, I wanted to send a message to a fellow vehicle restorer whose address was through a favourite website. It was down for some reason and I had to wait until it came back up to make contact.

I agree that internet content is 'prejudiced' and almost designed to be treated lightly. Unless a page's content can be archived, dated and retrieved, it is lost into the ether. Believe me, knowledge management is a huge concern in the three and four-letter agencies.
Back to top
View user's profile
TrevorLarkum
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Northampton, England
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:11 pm
Post subject: Re: PreservedTanks.com

Back from Duxford - had a great day! I took 261 photos, plus 26 video clips of tanks during the MV show, so it's likely to take a few weeks to get it all catalogued and organised. Tomorrow I'm away to Norway for a couple of weeks. Next week I'm on a training course in the East of England, but will try to come back via the Muckleburgh collection.

In the meantime, in honour of our hosts, here are a couple of wingy-thingy pics (scaled down to 800x600):






To keep the armour connection, some impressive radio-controlled models driving around:




_________________
Trevor

Dr Trevor Larkum
Preserved Tanks: PreservedTanks.com
Armour Archive: ArmourArchive.co.uk
EVs
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 13
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum