±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 146
Total: 146
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: News
04: CPGlang
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: CPGlang
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: LinkToUs
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Statistics
22: News
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: CPGlang
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: CPGlang
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Member Screenshots
40: CPGlang
41: Home
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Downloads
53: Downloads
54: Community Forums
55: Statistics
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Photo Gallery
60: Search
61: Community Forums
62: CPGlang
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: CPGlang
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: News
74: Community Forums
75: CPGlang
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Member Screenshots
79: CPGlang
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: CPGlang
84: Community Forums
85: Downloads
86: CPGlang
87: Photo Gallery
88: Downloads
89: Member Screenshots
90: Downloads
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: LinkToUs
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Downloads
98: CPGlang
99: Home
100: CPGlang
101: Home
102: CPGlang
103: CPGlang
104: CPGlang
105: CPGlang
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: Home
109: Home
110: Home
111: Home
112: CPGlang
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: CPGlang
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Statistics
123: Community Forums
124: News Archive
125: Community Forums
126: Downloads
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Community Forums
137: Downloads
138: Community Forums
139: Your Account
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: CPGlang

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture) Oops

In appreciation of our new hosts visual proof that wings and treads go together Laughing
Helps If I add the picture

Jeff Lewis
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture) Oops

- piney
Helps If I add the picture Jeff Lewis


There are pics of a B-36 that had tracked gear too that makes the rounds from time-to-time.... Shocked

(also, one of the cool features of this forum is that you can edit your own posts for when ya' forgets something like adding the pics. Couldn't do that "over yonder").

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

What would be the purpose? If its to stay on top of soft soil better, what would keep the front landing gear from digging in?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Probably just prototyping the idea on the main gear only.

Moreover, ya'd think a setup like that would impose some serious restrictions on max takeoff/landing speeds. Wonder how much squeek and clank that must have generated at 100MPH!!!

Quite an amazing site to behold though........thanks!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."


Last edited by JG300-Stoopy on Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- SFC_Jeff_Button
What would be the purpose? If its to stay on top of soft soil better, what would keep the front landing gear from digging in?


NAW,....Its just a wingy-thingy guy trying to play 'tanky-tanky' without getting dirty!! Laughing

(Ducking for cover) Shocked INCOMING!!!!

Mr. Green

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Well they should have done it to the B-25H then....with the 75MM cannon mounted in the nose of that particular variant, it woulda been even more tanky-tanky!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

I'm surprised this hasnt come up yet - the most infamous aircraft/tank combination - the Antonov A-40 Krylya Tanka (Tank Wings).



Antonov A-40

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
I'm surprised this hasnt come up yet - the most infamous aircraft/tank combination - the Antonov A-40 Krylya Tanka (Tank Wings).



Antonov A-40

Neil


Animations of that sucker were just on TV last night on "Secret weapons of..."

They mentioned the test pilot made what was called a "rough landing"... they didn't try it again after that. Project cancelled.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Even if they fixed the "small" landing issue, there's the question of how they would have escorted these very slow not maneuverable (even less so than a Dakota I'd imagine) behind German lines...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

What, did they follow through on the whole "winged tank" idear a little too literally and give the pilot just a small viewing slit and/or prism to look out of too? Anybody'd land rough like that....somewhere near the runway maybe.....

Seriously, do I see a turret there?

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
Even if they fixed the "small" landing issue, there's the question of how they would have escorted these very slow not maneuverable (even less so than a Dakota I'd imagine) behind German lines...

Neil


Neil,
The show maintained that the most daunting problem was the lack of aircraft of sufficient power to routinely get these suckers aloft. The rapid advance on Berlin made it un-necessary, moreover, which is apparently what they had in mind for it anyway (leap-frogging in).

I hope a certain party doesn't see this, or you might soon see the concept advocated for the M113. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- JG300-Stoopy

Seriously, do I see a turret there?


Yes, you do! (no tail gunner needed!)
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- JG300-Stoopy
What, did they follow through on the whole "winged tank" idear a little too literally and give the pilot just a small viewing slit and/or prism to look out of too? Anybody'd land rough like that....somewhere near the runway maybe.....

Seriously, do I see a turret there?


I'm very certain it did have a turret. The wings were more transportation than anything, it wasnt envisioned to fight in the air (the thought is pretty comical).

Started out with how to air transport/drop light tanks. First solution was mounting them on the underside of a bomber. Light tanks were carried in wingpods this way into the 50s...

So the next "logical" progression was to keep the wings & engines but get ride of the "unnecessary" bomber fuselage... Kinda an alternative to putting it in a glider...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Doug_Kibbey

Neil,
The show maintained that the most daunting problem was the lack of aircraft of sufficient power to routinely get these suckers aloft. The rapid advance on Berlin made it un-necessary, moreover, which is apparently what they had in mind for it anyway (leap-frogging in).


Oh yeah, thats true too...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
I'm very certain it did have a turret. The wings were more transportation than anything, it wasnt envisioned to fight in the air (the thought is pretty comical).


Okay...(shakes head vigorously back and forth)...I was still looking at it from the landing gear perspective only, thinking it was just another experiment on rough airstrip operations......didn't realize it was a tank and air transport mechanism all rolled into one. Doesn't sound like the best basis for design compromise does it?

Yeah, air-to-air action does sound comical doesn't it? But, what if the idea actually worked out, you never know.....we'd have seen an escalation of flying tank development effort on all sides, with fears of a possible "flying tank gap" and sooner or later the inevitable dog-firefight would have happened and good gravy the falling spent cartridges themselves woulda wreaked havoc on the local potato and turnip crops......horrifying to think of. Yet somehow, kinda cool at the same time, gotta admit.....

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum