±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 233
Total: 233
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Downloads
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Photo Gallery
13: Home
14: Downloads
15: Downloads
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Member Screenshots
21: Tell a Friend
22: Home
23: Home
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Member Screenshots
27: Community Forums
28: Member Screenshots
29: Community Forums
30: Member Screenshots
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Member Screenshots
35: Community Forums
36: Downloads
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Downloads
40: Home
41: Member Screenshots
42: Home
43: Downloads
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Downloads
47: Community Forums
48: Home
49: Community Forums
50: Member Screenshots
51: News Archive
52: Community Forums
53: Member Screenshots
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Member Screenshots
62: Tell a Friend
63: Downloads
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Member Screenshots
68: Community Forums
69: Member Screenshots
70: Downloads
71: Member Screenshots
72: Member Screenshots
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Member Screenshots
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Downloads
85: Member Screenshots
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Downloads
97: Community Forums
98: Member Screenshots
99: Community Forums
100: News Archive
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Photo Gallery
105: Home
106: Community Forums
107: Photo Gallery
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Member Screenshots
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Downloads
121: Photo Gallery
122: Photo Gallery
123: Home
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Member Screenshots
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Downloads
131: Community Forums
132: Member Screenshots
133: Community Forums
134: Member Screenshots
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: Member Screenshots
139: Photo Gallery
140: Photo Gallery
141: Photo Gallery
142: Downloads
143: Community Forums
144: Downloads
145: Photo Gallery
146: Home
147: Downloads
148: Home
149: Downloads
150: Community Forums
151: Your Account
152: Downloads
153: Home
154: Member Screenshots
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Home
158: Downloads
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Home
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Downloads
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Downloads
171: Community Forums
172: Downloads
173: Your Account
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Photo Gallery
180: Downloads
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Member Screenshots
184: Home
185: Member Screenshots
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Home
192: Downloads
193: Home
194: Home
195: Downloads
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Downloads
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: News Archive
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Member Screenshots
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Downloads
209: Photo Gallery
210: Member Screenshots
211: Photo Gallery
212: Home
213: Member Screenshots
214: Member Screenshots
215: Home
216: Photo Gallery
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Photo Gallery
226: Home
227: News
228: Downloads
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture) Oops

In appreciation of our new hosts visual proof that wings and treads go together Laughing
Helps If I add the picture

Jeff Lewis
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture) Oops

- piney
Helps If I add the picture Jeff Lewis


There are pics of a B-36 that had tracked gear too that makes the rounds from time-to-time.... Shocked

(also, one of the cool features of this forum is that you can edit your own posts for when ya' forgets something like adding the pics. Couldn't do that "over yonder").

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

What would be the purpose? If its to stay on top of soft soil better, what would keep the front landing gear from digging in?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Probably just prototyping the idea on the main gear only.

Moreover, ya'd think a setup like that would impose some serious restrictions on max takeoff/landing speeds. Wonder how much squeek and clank that must have generated at 100MPH!!!

Quite an amazing site to behold though........thanks!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."


Last edited by JG300-Stoopy on Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- SFC_Jeff_Button
What would be the purpose? If its to stay on top of soft soil better, what would keep the front landing gear from digging in?


NAW,....Its just a wingy-thingy guy trying to play 'tanky-tanky' without getting dirty!! Laughing

(Ducking for cover) Shocked INCOMING!!!!

Mr. Green

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Well they should have done it to the B-25H then....with the 75MM cannon mounted in the nose of that particular variant, it woulda been even more tanky-tanky!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

I'm surprised this hasnt come up yet - the most infamous aircraft/tank combination - the Antonov A-40 Krylya Tanka (Tank Wings).



Antonov A-40

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
I'm surprised this hasnt come up yet - the most infamous aircraft/tank combination - the Antonov A-40 Krylya Tanka (Tank Wings).



Antonov A-40

Neil


Animations of that sucker were just on TV last night on "Secret weapons of..."

They mentioned the test pilot made what was called a "rough landing"... they didn't try it again after that. Project cancelled.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

Even if they fixed the "small" landing issue, there's the question of how they would have escorted these very slow not maneuverable (even less so than a Dakota I'd imagine) behind German lines...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

What, did they follow through on the whole "winged tank" idear a little too literally and give the pilot just a small viewing slit and/or prism to look out of too? Anybody'd land rough like that....somewhere near the runway maybe.....

Seriously, do I see a turret there?

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
Even if they fixed the "small" landing issue, there's the question of how they would have escorted these very slow not maneuverable (even less so than a Dakota I'd imagine) behind German lines...

Neil


Neil,
The show maintained that the most daunting problem was the lack of aircraft of sufficient power to routinely get these suckers aloft. The rapid advance on Berlin made it un-necessary, moreover, which is apparently what they had in mind for it anyway (leap-frogging in).

I hope a certain party doesn't see this, or you might soon see the concept advocated for the M113. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- JG300-Stoopy

Seriously, do I see a turret there?


Yes, you do! (no tail gunner needed!)
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- JG300-Stoopy
What, did they follow through on the whole "winged tank" idear a little too literally and give the pilot just a small viewing slit and/or prism to look out of too? Anybody'd land rough like that....somewhere near the runway maybe.....

Seriously, do I see a turret there?


I'm very certain it did have a turret. The wings were more transportation than anything, it wasnt envisioned to fight in the air (the thought is pretty comical).

Started out with how to air transport/drop light tanks. First solution was mounting them on the underside of a bomber. Light tanks were carried in wingpods this way into the 50s...

So the next "logical" progression was to keep the wings & engines but get ride of the "unnecessary" bomber fuselage... Kinda an alternative to putting it in a glider...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Doug_Kibbey

Neil,
The show maintained that the most daunting problem was the lack of aircraft of sufficient power to routinely get these suckers aloft. The rapid advance on Berlin made it un-necessary, moreover, which is apparently what they had in mind for it anyway (leap-frogging in).


Oh yeah, thats true too...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)

- Neil_Baumgardner
I'm very certain it did have a turret. The wings were more transportation than anything, it wasnt envisioned to fight in the air (the thought is pretty comical).


Okay...(shakes head vigorously back and forth)...I was still looking at it from the landing gear perspective only, thinking it was just another experiment on rough airstrip operations......didn't realize it was a tank and air transport mechanism all rolled into one. Doesn't sound like the best basis for design compromise does it?

Yeah, air-to-air action does sound comical doesn't it? But, what if the idea actually worked out, you never know.....we'd have seen an escalation of flying tank development effort on all sides, with fears of a possible "flying tank gap" and sooner or later the inevitable dog-firefight would have happened and good gravy the falling spent cartridges themselves woulda wreaked havoc on the local potato and turnip crops......horrifying to think of. Yet somehow, kinda cool at the same time, gotta admit.....

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum