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the_shadock · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

well, as soon as the Sherman is restored, I plan to go back to Overloon to visit both this monument and the museum. That will be just fine..

Pierre-Olivier

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

found an up-date about the Sherman that is being restored for the Overloon monument

original Dutch version:
www.twenot-forums.nl/v...mp;t=23093

Translated section:

I am one of the people working on the project. It is indeed a Sherman E9. We are currently working on the tank to bring it back into the configuration of 1944, when they drove around Overloon. That is, we are removing the broadening blocks between hull and bogie sets. Besides the bogie sets, also of the tension wheel holders and sprocket wheels. The padding blocks are welded to the hull with using nickel / chromium welding and "easiest" way to remove them is gouge technique. Flame cutting and / or cutting is not an option. We also have to figure out how we have to remove the sprocket wheels. These are mounted with small tapered clamps rings onto the threaded ends. This is probably also an gouge job. Currently we have removed 4 bogie sets, the tower has been lifted and the interior is taken by the Dutch Army props committee (part of the army that takes care of museum vehicle's). They will reuse and re-producte parts for their projects, including a Sherman Dozer. Meanwhile we have already found a company that wil reproduce the 75mm barrel.
It had been easier to leave the E9 accessories intact, but we have chosen to restore the vehicle historically correct where possible.

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi folks, I have an question for the US halftrack lovers

Last weekend I spotted an M16 MGMC, so far - so good

However this M16 is build on an M2 halftrack chassis, so with the track extending beyond the rear of the body
From the info I could find, all M16 should be converted M3 chassis, so with the rear of the body extending over the tracks

Could some one help me out Confused

If this is an real WW2 configuration and is the intell not correct, or is it an sort of restoration conversion

Michel

Walter · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Hanno_Spoelstra

- the_shadock

How do you see that it is a Firefly turret?

You can't really see it in the picture above, a friend of mine saw it and noted it was a modified Firefly turret.

Maybe does a shot from the other side of the turret help ?

Michel_Krauss

- Hanno_Spoelstra

Michel,

Those fittings are there because this tank once was an M74 TRV. It was stripped of most of its TRV gear, and fitted with a Firefly turret. I understand it has been sold.

Hanno

Hanno,

thanks for that info
I only could find it at the site of the Aces group and an selling site
Accordig to that info it was still for sale

- Doug_Kibbey

"One man's comma is another man's decimal point." Mr. Green

Maybe P-O can get it on grounds of a typo!

I don't think so
Using comma's for seperating of an thousand number is US style, in Europe we use an dot to seperate
And because P-O and I are in Europe we use the dot Mr. Green

Michel

Hanno_Spoelstra · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jun 04, 2006 Posts: 185

- the_shadock

How do you see that it is a Firefly turret?

You can't really see it in the picture above, a friend of mine saw it and noted it was a modified Firefly turret.

the_shadock · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Hanno_Spoelstra

and fitted with a Firefly turret

How do you see that it is a Firefly turret?

Pierre-Olivier

Dontos

I noticed that the gun manlet seems to be tied up with rope. I wonder if this is to hold it on?

Also, not to be overly critical, but I wish there wasn't so many C Company, 37th Tank Bn restored vehicles. There was more than one tank battalion and one Division to have fought in the ETO, that possessed armor.

Personally, I was always partial to the exploits of the 3rd Armored Division, having served with 3rd AD in the 80's.

If I could 'scratch' together 131 euros, I might try to outbid P.O.......ha ha ha

Regards
Don

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

Well you could make them an offer, however I think the gap between 130€ and 130000€ maybe a point of discussion

Michel

"One man's comma is another man's decimal point." Mr. Green

Maybe P-O can get it on grounds of a typo!

Hanno_Spoelstra · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jun 04, 2006 Posts: 185

- Michel_Krauss

an update about the Sherman M4A3E8 with the special fittings to the hull

Michel,

Those fittings are there because this tank once was an M74 TRV. It was stripped of most of its TRV gear, and fitted with a Firefly turret. I understand it has been sold.

Hanno

Smashy · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Aug 05, 2010 Posts: 112

Pity it hasn't an EasyEight turret....

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Well you could make them an offer, however I think the gap between 130€ and 130000€ maybe a point of discussion Wink

At the following link there is some history of the tank and some nice movies, in English

www.preservinghistory....&Itemid=86

Now I also know which guy's where trying to burn down the workshop with the help of an Sherman engine Laughing

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwCavr0oHSo

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

well, actually I do have 130€ to spend. Where do I have to take this Sherman to bring it to its new home?

Pierre-Olivier

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi folks

an update about the Sherman M4A3E8 with the special fittings to the hull

This Sherman is for sale, because the owning reenactor group ACES do not have the storage facility or time to maintain the tank

Does some-one have 130.000 Euro at hand to buy an nice Sherman tank Mr. Green

Michel

Hanno_Spoelstra · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jun 04, 2006 Posts: 185

- L.Delsing

A picture of the M51 in the NLD. It seems they removed some numbers/markings. Anyone who knows what they removed (castingnumbers of serials?)
www.xs4all.nl/~jwdeboe...C05050.jpg

Lesley,

The two upper scars are where the gun lock for the original 76-mm gun was welded on the hull. This gun lock was removed when the tank was converted.

The lower scar is the former IDF registration number, I believe - the "Y" at the end is still there.

HTH,
Hanno

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