±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 716
Total: 716
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Downloads
05: Home
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: CPGlang
12: Photo Gallery
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Downloads
22: Your Account
23: Downloads
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: CPGlang
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Member Screenshots
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Statistics
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Photo Gallery
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Photo Gallery
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: CPGlang
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Member Screenshots
100: Community Forums
101: Member Screenshots
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: News
106: Photo Gallery
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Photo Gallery
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Downloads
124: Statistics
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: CPGlang
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Photo Gallery
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Downloads
177: Home
178: Member Screenshots
179: Home
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: News Archive
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Member Screenshots
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Downloads
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Photo Gallery
207: Downloads
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Photo Gallery
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: CPGlang
227: Community Forums
228: Member Screenshots
229: Downloads
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Photo Gallery
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Photo Gallery
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: CPGlang
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Photo Gallery
268: Home
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Downloads
273: CPGlang
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Home
301: Community Forums
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Member Screenshots
310: Your Account
311: Photo Gallery
312: Member Screenshots
313: Statistics
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Photo Gallery
323: Community Forums
324: Photo Gallery
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Photo Gallery
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Statistics
363: Photo Gallery
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: Home
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Home
383: Photo Gallery
384: Home
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Member Screenshots
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Home
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Your Account
410: Community Forums
411: Member Screenshots
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Photo Gallery
418: News
419: Photo Gallery
420: Home
421: Statistics
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Your Account
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Downloads
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: CPGlang
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Photo Gallery
458: Downloads
459: Photo Gallery
460: Community Forums
461: Home
462: Downloads
463: Community Forums
464: Home
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Home
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Downloads
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Community Forums
481: Statistics
482: Community Forums
483: Member Screenshots
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Downloads
502: Home
503: Photo Gallery
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Photo Gallery
515: Community Forums
516: Photo Gallery
517: Photo Gallery
518: Home
519: Community Forums
520: Downloads
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Photo Gallery
524: Photo Gallery
525: Photo Gallery
526: Community Forums
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Your Account
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Member Screenshots
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Statistics
551: Photo Gallery
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Member Screenshots
555: Member Screenshots
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Statistics
559: Community Forums
560: Downloads
561: Community Forums
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Home
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Photo Gallery
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Community Forums
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: News Archive
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Photo Gallery
594: Downloads
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Community Forums
599: Downloads
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Member Screenshots
604: Photo Gallery
605: Home
606: Your Account
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: CPGlang
621: Member Screenshots
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Photo Gallery
634: CPGlang
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Downloads
640: Community Forums
641: CPGlang
642: Community Forums
643: Member Screenshots
644: Community Forums
645: Your Account
646: Photo Gallery
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Photo Gallery
650: Community Forums
651: Your Account
652: Your Account
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Photo Gallery
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Downloads
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Home
666: Community Forums
667: Your Account
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Photo Gallery
671: CPGlang
672: Photo Gallery
673: Community Forums
674: Downloads
675: Your Account
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Photo Gallery
686: Community Forums
687: Member Screenshots
688: Photo Gallery
689: Photo Gallery
690: Community Forums
691: Photo Gallery
692: Photo Gallery
693: Your Account
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Statistics
697: Community Forums
698: Home
699: Downloads
700: Community Forums
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Photo Gallery
704: Downloads
705: Community Forums
706: Member Screenshots
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Photo Gallery
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Photo Gallery
713: Community Forums
714: Community Forums
715: Community Forums
716: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Gavin-Phillips
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:39 pm
Post subject: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

I had heard about this conversion a while back, and right now the only picture that shows up in a Google search is on the now pay-to-use Jedsite Mad

I'm just wondering if anyone has more pics of this interesting vehicle, or if any books on T-54/T-55 covers it at all? I realise it is only a field modification but its an interesting one nevertheless!

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile
Christophe_Jacquemont
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 17, 2006
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

[url=http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_20064711121112.asp
]Photo at military photos.[/url]



Cheers,
Christophe
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

I'm kinda' hopin' for a picture of "Nadia".....

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

- Gavin-Phillips
I had heard about this conversion a while back, and right now the only picture that shows up in a Google search is on the now pay-to-use Jedsite Mad


Ah but incredible value for money Smile

- Gavin-Phillips
I'm just wondering if anyone has more pics of this interesting vehicle, or if any books on T-54/T-55 covers it at all? I realise it is only a field modification but its an interesting one nevertheless!


Field modification is not quite accurate - they are quite well made and there were at least 18 produced. I have a walkaround of one of these vehicles somewhere around here... I'll have to add it to the site sometime.

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

I would like to see the walk around on these vehicles. Any idea on the caliber, 105, 120mm? I would almost bet they were used for chemical delivery.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

- SFC_Jeff_Button
Any idea on the caliber, 105, 120mm?


160mm

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:17 am
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

Yeah, I'm a moron, after I posted that I read the "title" of the posting more closely. Any data on this weapon available?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Gavin-Phillips
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:37 am
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

I echo Jeff on that (cos he beat me to it), plus walkarounds would indeed be great to see Cool Being somewhat little known about as far as book go, I was wondering 3 main things about this conversion.

1: What is the crew number/duty of such a vehicle. Obviously there is a driver, a gunner and at least 1 loader. But then what, are those 160mm shells too heavy for one person to handle? I would expect a vehicle commander also...

2: When I first heard about this vehicle, I think the photo caption mentioned something about the weapon having limited traverse. Going by assumption only, I'd guess that was manually controlled, but what kind of traverse can you get out of a weapon that isnt turret mounted? Then there is also elevation/depression limits?

3: Ammo loadout!! How big is 160mm mortar ammunition? T-54 tank had the bulk of the ammunition stowed in the turret which doesnt help really. It may be hard to determine this if none of the 18 vehicles produced was fully kitted out for operations.

Thanks for all the replies!
Back to top
View user's profile
Jens_O_Mehner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 511
Location: Giessen, Germany
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:16 am
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

Gavin,

are you sure the mortar isn't turret-mounted? It looks like the whole superstructure is sitting on a rotatable base, just like the tank-turret it replaced- kinda hard to be sure with just this front view, though.

Otherwise, you aim it just like your good old Ferdinand/Elefant, Sturmgeschütz, Jagdpanzer or S-Tank, by moving the whole thing...

Cheers,

Jens O.
Back to top
View user's profile
Gavin-Phillips
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:58 am
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

- Jens_O_Mehner
Gavin,

are you sure the mortar isn't turret-mounted? It looks like the whole superstructure is sitting on a rotatable base, just like the tank-turret it replaced- kinda hard to be sure with just this front view, though.

Otherwise, you aim it just like your good old Ferdinand/Elefant, Sturmgeschütz, Jagdpanzer or S-Tank, by moving the whole thing...

Cheers,

Jens O.


It could very well be that the rotating gear for the MBT of which this vehicle is based, is still in place. I was just going by memory from the caption as far as limited traverse being mentioned. Although it isn't quite the same, ZU-23 anti-aircraft guns are still manually traversed when mounted on a BMP hull.
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

The US M121, 120mm mortar system can fire rounds approx 7,200 meters. The M1064 Mortar track can carry 69, 120mm rds inside. The weight of a rounds is approx 30lbs, depending on the round. My guess is that the 160mm would weight around 50lbs. However, I would bet that those tank chassis don't have the ability to carry many rounds, and that support/ammo trucks are required to follow along closely. If they were designed mainly for gas/chemical use, then traverse would not be a real nessecity, as with HE type ammo. Just my take on it.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:42 am
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

Hi Folks!

Tried to Google Soviet 160mm mortars, found the follow bits here and there. Shocked

Iraq is listed as having M-160 PKT (C) Towed Breech Loading mortars.
Number unknown.
Standard mortar has a crew of six.
Three types of rounds: HE, Chem, and WP.
Min range 750 meters, Max range 8,040 meters.

Could NOT find anything on shell sizes and weights.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Iraqi 160mm mortar mounted on a T-54 tank chassis?

- Roy_A_Lingle

Could NOT find anything on shell sizes and weights.

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum