±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 797
Total: 797
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Photo Gallery
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: CPGlang
21: Downloads
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Home
30: Photo Gallery
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Downloads
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Downloads
46: Downloads
47: Photo Gallery
48: Downloads
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Downloads
62: Photo Gallery
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Your Account
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Your Account
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: News Archive
77: Home
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Downloads
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: CPGlang
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Downloads
91: Community Forums
92: Downloads
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: CPGlang
98: Downloads
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Home
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Member Screenshots
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Photo Gallery
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Downloads
122: Community Forums
123: Downloads
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Photo Gallery
133: News
134: Photo Gallery
135: Downloads
136: Photo Gallery
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Downloads
141: Downloads
142: Photo Gallery
143: Photo Gallery
144: Member Screenshots
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Downloads
148: Community Forums
149: Downloads
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Home
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Home
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Downloads
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Your Account
178: News Archive
179: Member Screenshots
180: Home
181: Home
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Downloads
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: News Archive
192: CPGlang
193: Home
194: Home
195: News Archive
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Downloads
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Downloads
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Your Account
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Downloads
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Photo Gallery
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Downloads
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Photo Gallery
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Home
245: Photo Gallery
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Photo Gallery
255: Photo Gallery
256: News
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Member Screenshots
264: Community Forums
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: CPGlang
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Downloads
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Home
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Downloads
311: Community Forums
312: CPGlang
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Statistics
319: CPGlang
320: Your Account
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Downloads
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Downloads
330: Community Forums
331: Downloads
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Home
335: Downloads
336: Photo Gallery
337: Downloads
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Downloads
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Member Screenshots
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: CPGlang
360: Member Screenshots
361: Downloads
362: Community Forums
363: Downloads
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Downloads
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Photo Gallery
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Contact
382: Community Forums
383: Photo Gallery
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Photo Gallery
387: Downloads
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Downloads
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Downloads
399: Your Account
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Downloads
403: Community Forums
404: Downloads
405: Photo Gallery
406: Community Forums
407: Downloads
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: CPGlang
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Photo Gallery
417: Photo Gallery
418: Photo Gallery
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Member Screenshots
422: Photo Gallery
423: Community Forums
424: Downloads
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Photo Gallery
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Member Screenshots
436: Community Forums
437: Downloads
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Downloads
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Downloads
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Downloads
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Downloads
465: Photo Gallery
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Member Screenshots
470: Community Forums
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Photo Gallery
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Member Screenshots
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Photo Gallery
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Photo Gallery
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Downloads
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Downloads
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Downloads
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Downloads
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Photo Gallery
534: Community Forums
535: Downloads
536: Photo Gallery
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: Downloads
540: Downloads
541: CPGlang
542: Community Forums
543: Downloads
544: Photo Gallery
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Community Forums
549: Photo Gallery
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Photo Gallery
553: Downloads
554: Downloads
555: Community Forums
556: News Archive
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Photo Gallery
560: Community Forums
561: Home
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Your Account
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Downloads
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Downloads
578: Community Forums
579: Member Screenshots
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Your Account
583: Home
584: Community Forums
585: CPGlang
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: Member Screenshots
589: Photo Gallery
590: Downloads
591: Photo Gallery
592: Downloads
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Home
597: Community Forums
598: Photo Gallery
599: Community Forums
600: Home
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Home
604: Photo Gallery
605: Downloads
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: News Archive
609: Member Screenshots
610: Contact
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Home
617: Photo Gallery
618: Photo Gallery
619: Community Forums
620: Downloads
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Downloads
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Downloads
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Photo Gallery
634: Home
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Downloads
641: Photo Gallery
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Downloads
647: Photo Gallery
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Home
652: Home
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Photo Gallery
656: Community Forums
657: Home
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Home
663: Community Forums
664: Member Screenshots
665: Photo Gallery
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Your Account
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Home
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Home
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Home
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: News
687: Member Screenshots
688: CPGlang
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Home
692: Community Forums
693: Photo Gallery
694: Downloads
695: Community Forums
696: Member Screenshots
697: Community Forums
698: Photo Gallery
699: Community Forums
700: Photo Gallery
701: Community Forums
702: Downloads
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Community Forums
706: Downloads
707: Home
708: Community Forums
709: Downloads
710: CPGlang
711: Home
712: Home
713: Community Forums
714: Downloads
715: Home
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: Community Forums
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Home
722: Photo Gallery
723: Community Forums
724: Home
725: Home
726: Community Forums
727: Community Forums
728: Downloads
729: Community Forums
730: Home
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: Home
736: Downloads
737: Downloads
738: Community Forums
739: Photo Gallery
740: Member Screenshots
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Member Screenshots
744: Home
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Downloads
748: Community Forums
749: Downloads
750: Photo Gallery
751: Downloads
752: Community Forums
753: Statistics
754: Community Forums
755: Home
756: Photo Gallery
757: Community Forums
758: Downloads
759: Community Forums
760: Community Forums
761: Photo Gallery
762: Community Forums
763: Your Account
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: Community Forums
767: Photo Gallery
768: Home
769: Community Forums
770: Community Forums
771: Community Forums
772: Community Forums
773: Photo Gallery
774: Home
775: Community Forums
776: Statistics
777: Community Forums
778: Community Forums
779: Home
780: Community Forums
781: Photo Gallery
782: Community Forums
783: Community Forums
784: Photo Gallery
785: Community Forums
786: Community Forums
787: Community Forums
788: Statistics
789: Photo Gallery
790: Community Forums
791: Home
792: CPGlang
793: Home
794: Photo Gallery
795: Photo Gallery
796: Your Account
797: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:49 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Hi Folks!

- SFC_Jeff_Button

I snapped a picture down the muzzle and was suprised to see it was smooth bore. The other M60 I took pics of had a rifled barrel. Is this another clue to it being a "Slick 60"?



SMOOTH BORE 105mm gun tube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I the only one who noticed this?

The profile of that tube makes me think it is a normal rifled barrel and not a mock up.

Why would a M60A0 or any other M60 type have a SMOOTH BORE?

Very confuzed!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:58 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

[quote="Roy_A_Lingle"]Hi Folks!

- SFC_Jeff_Button

I snapped a picture down the muzzle and was suprised to see it was smooth bore. The other M60 I took pics of had a rifled barrel. Is this another clue to it being a "Slick 60"?

SMOOTH BORE 105mm gun tube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I the only one who noticed this?
The profile of that tube makes me think it is a normal rifled barrel and not a mock up.

Why would a M60A0 or any other M60 type have a SMOOTH BORE?

Very confuzed!
Sgt, Scouts Out!


Nope...and I've been wracking my brain trying to recall any Board experiments with smooth bore experiments on older model Pattons...and coming up dry. Found nuttin' in Hunnicutt yet either. Doesn't mean there weren't any though. Maybe Bob knows of something from the APG archives. I can imagine an interest in this concept, but I'm suspicious.
We need a look-see inside at this gun. Wink

Jeff, can you get a view of the muzzle of this gun? Does it have the boresight "notches"? (four of them, for attaching thread or string across the end of the muzzle on the outside, might let us know if this is even a real gun barrel or not, though it certaionly looks to be)
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:52 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

I just found my ealier pictures of this "Slick 60" that I took in good sunlight. This may help with identifying some features and looking for those glacis grind marks and muzzle end? Here are also the inside gun data plate and information. The breech area said; "TUBE No 11041, CANNON 105mm, Gun M68, MFR. 9208, 1971, 1660LBS, INS", from there I couldn't make out any more. I sure thought it was a real cannon/muzzle, but I'm not the tank expert.














_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:03 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Jeff,
It sure looks real to me, too. If you have found some sort of early smoothbore 105mm experimental piece 'o ordnance, then that's truely a signficant historical item and we've got some homework to do. I've very curious to hear others' take on this, because to the best of my knowledge, there's nothing you can do to the rifled version of that gun to cause what you've found in the normal course of events. A precise measurement across the inside diameter of that bore would be interesting.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

I wonder if some kind of de-milling involved grinding the rifling out for a certain distance in from the muzzle? Getting a light further down the barrel so we could see if there was rifling further down the bore would be interesting (as would getting a measurement of the bore diameter at the muzzle)

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:30 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Its definately a mystery... I suspect it had a smoothbore cannon - ie a weight/barrel instead of a real gun - because it was meant to be a training tank, but otherwise had all the right components.... The Army did consider a 105mm smoothbore gun called the T210E4 for the T95E4 tank, but the barrel looked considerably different with the bore extractor well forward compared to the M68...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:04 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

This M60A3 was one of the first I saw while driving around Ft Hood that wasn't in a museum. This one sits in the 4th ID area, at a three street, pie-wedge intersection of Battalion Ave and 19th and 20th Streets. Serial number is 3293A, ("A" in believed to stand for Anniston rebuild).





_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:19 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Jeff, thanks again for all the pics. I'll add it to the register.

BTW, I hope those fires didnt force ya'll to evacuate?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:23 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Looks like the original SN was 9190?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:43 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Yes, 9190 was the original serial, should have said that before. The fire was worse than first thought, not a grass fire but a run away brush fire where flames were 30-40 ft high. Commanchee 1,2, and 3 were all evacuated. People were not aloowed back into houseing by car, and were parking along the edge of housing running in on foot to get pets while the MP's watched. I live about 5-6 miles away to the west, and my car and truck were covered on ash and dust this morning. Spent the morning washing them. I had a family get ready to spend the night at my house last night with their dog, cat, and even a rat, but they were finally allowed to go home around 9pm. Rumor has it the fire was started by one of two ways; a power line blew down in the winds and sparked, or a local burn got out of control in the high winds. Killeen registered a high wind gust of 48mph, Waco hit 55mph.
How are your weekends looking around mid-late March? How long a trip is it fron Eustis to APG? PM me with the info.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:58 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Jeff

Just popped you and Neil PMs. But for both you and everyone else, check out the 'Aberdeen in April' thread that is in the 'sticky area'.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:48 am
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
This M60A3 was one of the first I saw while driving around Ft Hood that wasn't in a museum. This one sits in the 4th ID area, at a three street, pie-wedge intersection of Battalion Ave and 19th and 20th Streets. Serial number is 3293A, ("A" in believed to stand for Anniston rebuild).






Jeff
'Death Dealers' was for 1/67 & 2/67 Ar Bns ( formally 2nd AD ).

That is where a snack stand was, if I remember correctly.

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:31 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Hi everyone,
I'm kinda wish I had commented on the "Smooth Bore" earlier but I initially thouht the picture was taken from the breech, Duh!!! . Very interesting discovery. Based on the information Jeff posted:
The breech area said; "TUBE No 11041, CANNON 105mm, Gun M68, MFR. 9208, 1971, 1660LBS, INS",


This leads me to believe it's a standard 105 rifled tube. The manufacture date being 1971 also says this is not the original tube for this tank, not surprising since they were only good for about 1000 EFC rounds. I looked a lot closer at the interior pictures Jeff posted and one thing that stands out is the Nylon sheild is missing inside the turret along with the large counter weight to the right of the breech. The Auxillary sight also does not look original, It should be a 105C for it's age. Can't tell by the sight picture because it looks like the HEAT reticle is indexed. By the looks of the inside I think the whole gun and maybe breech have been replaced in this tank. It also looks like the breech is covered in Grease to preserve it. The breech would have it's own serial number and manufacture date located at the 6 o'clock looking at it from the back, just under the breech block. Those generally were good for at least 3000 rounds from what I remember, no reason why it wouldn't be the original unless the whole assembly was replaced as I suspect. I have no idea why the the rifle groves are removed, demilling is a good guess but that takes a lot of work compared to just welding a plug. Might be a tube they got that was defective from Watervliet Arsenal that was identified as defective before they rifled it. This tank is a real brain teaser, the more Jeff posts on it, the more questions I have. Maybe we need an AFV "CSI" team to fly down and investigate it Laughing . Who knows, could be a new TV show on the History Channel.

Stumped and Frustrated Mad because I ain't there,

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:41 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

- Joe_D
This tank is a real brain teaser, the more Jeff posts on it, the more questions I have. Maybe we need an AFV "CSI" team to fly down and investigate it Laughing . Who knows, could be a new TV show on the History Channel.

Stumped and Frustrated Mad because I ain't there,

Joe D


"Scramble your best Curmudgeon Team! This is not a drill!" ...and let's not spoil any facts we might elucidate with any "helpful" editting by a H-C crew, eh, Joe?

This vehicle is, indeed, the most interesting enigma to come our way in a while...and don't we love a good mystery?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:59 pm
Post subject: Re: M60 at Ft Hood for Joe D...

Joe,
Not to divert from a good enigma... But I have an M60 SN question. If it ends in an A its the Anniston Army Depot rebuild SN... What if it ends in an M???

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 4 of 5
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum