±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 586
Total: 586
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: CPGlang
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Photo Gallery
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: CPGlang
30: Home
31: Photo Gallery
32: Photo Gallery
33: Statistics
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: News Archive
37: Photo Gallery
38: Downloads
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Photo Gallery
54: Photo Gallery
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Photo Gallery
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Photo Gallery
67: Photo Gallery
68: Member Screenshots
69: Community Forums
70: Statistics
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Statistics
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Photo Gallery
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Your Account
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Search
96: Community Forums
97: Photo Gallery
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Downloads
101: Downloads
102: Community Forums
103: Statistics
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Your Account
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Photo Gallery
136: Photo Gallery
137: Photo Gallery
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Photo Gallery
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Your Account
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Member Screenshots
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Photo Gallery
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Downloads
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Photo Gallery
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Your Account
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Your Account
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Photo Gallery
206: Home
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Downloads
214: Photo Gallery
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Photo Gallery
226: Home
227: Photo Gallery
228: Photo Gallery
229: Community Forums
230: Photo Gallery
231: Photo Gallery
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Your Account
238: Your Account
239: Community Forums
240: Statistics
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Member Screenshots
245: Home
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Photo Gallery
250: Downloads
251: Community Forums
252: Your Account
253: Photo Gallery
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: CPGlang
264: Community Forums
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: News Archive
276: Home
277: Photo Gallery
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: CPGlang
281: Community Forums
282: CPGlang
283: Home
284: Member Screenshots
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Photo Gallery
288: Downloads
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Statistics
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Photo Gallery
303: Photo Gallery
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: CPGlang
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Statistics
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Photo Gallery
319: Your Account
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Home
323: Home
324: Home
325: Photo Gallery
326: Downloads
327: Community Forums
328: Photo Gallery
329: Community Forums
330: Home
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Downloads
335: Community Forums
336: Your Account
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Home
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Photo Gallery
375: Home
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Photo Gallery
379: Photo Gallery
380: Photo Gallery
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Home
385: Member Screenshots
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Home
393: Member Screenshots
394: Your Account
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Home
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Home
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Downloads
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Home
430: Community Forums
431: Photo Gallery
432: Photo Gallery
433: Photo Gallery
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Photo Gallery
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Downloads
448: Downloads
449: Community Forums
450: Downloads
451: Photo Gallery
452: CPGlang
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Your Account
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Your Account
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Your Account
463: Photo Gallery
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Your Account
470: Photo Gallery
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Home
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Member Screenshots
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Home
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Downloads
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Downloads
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Downloads
496: Member Screenshots
497: Community Forums
498: Member Screenshots
499: Community Forums
500: Photo Gallery
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Home
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Home
512: Photo Gallery
513: Photo Gallery
514: Community Forums
515: Home
516: Home
517: Photo Gallery
518: Community Forums
519: Home
520: Community Forums
521: Downloads
522: Community Forums
523: Downloads
524: Home
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Search
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Photo Gallery
534: Downloads
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Downloads
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Photo Gallery
545: News
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Home
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Downloads
554: Community Forums
555: Downloads
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Member Screenshots
560: Member Screenshots
561: Photo Gallery
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Downloads
571: Home
572: Member Screenshots
573: Community Forums
574: Your Account
575: Member Screenshots
576: Home
577: Photo Gallery
578: Photo Gallery
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Your Account
582: Home
583: Home
584: Community Forums
585: Downloads
586: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:04 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

This will get ugly,

The biggest fundamental problem I see will be with the modern/currently used tanks. Too much of their true capabilities, and more so, limitations are very closely gaurded secrets by the countries who produce them. What a tank in theory is capable of on paper by no means reflects it's true performance. Case in point, M60A2. I am sure there are some participating or just lurking Wink who know of some serious flaws with certain weapon systems currently in their countries that they cannot speak of . I suggest we exclude these because there really is no way for us to truely compare them to each other.

One other issue I see will be combat history. The best tank in the world is worthless unless it has a trained and motivated crew. How you compare a Patton to a T55 to a Centurion greatly depends on who's inside when the fighting starts Neutral .

With that in mind, I will abstain from this fray for now. Mr. Green

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:35 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- Joe_D
This will get ugly,

The biggest fundamental problem I see will be with the modern/currently used tanks. Too much of their true capabilities, and more so, limitations are very closely gaurded secrets by the countries who produce them. What a tank in theory is capable of on paper by no means reflects it's true performance. Case in point, M60A2. I am sure there are some participating or just lurking Wink who know of some serious flaws with certain weapon systems currently in their countries that they cannot speak of . I suggest we exclude these because there really is no way for us to truely compare them to each other.

One other issue I see will be combat history. The best tank in the world is worthless unless it has a trained and motivated crew. How you compare a Patton to a T55 to a Centurion greatly depends on who's inside when the fighting starts Neutral .

With that in mind, I will abstain from this fray for now. Mr. Green

Joe D


Good point, Joe, as usual.

One way to avoid the "security" issue and "my current tank is better than your current tank" (or not, for reasons I dare not speak) is to establish a "cutoff" date to eliminate the current generations, say about 1985-1990 or so. Keep it "historical"...something like that?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JeffStringer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- Joe_D
This will get ugly,

The biggest fundamental problem I see will be with the modern/currently used tanks. Too much of their true capabilities, and more so, limitations are very closely gaurded secrets by the countries who produce them. What a tank in theory is capable of on paper by no means reflects it's true performance. Case in point, M60A2. I am sure there are some participating or just lurking Wink who know of some serious flaws with certain weapon systems currently in their countries that they cannot speak of . I suggest we exclude these because there really is no way for us to truely compare them to each other.

One other issue I see will be combat history. The best tank in the world is worthless unless it has a trained and motivated crew. How you compare a Patton to a T55 to a Centurion greatly depends on who's inside when the fighting starts Neutral .

With that in mind, I will abstain from this fray for now. Mr. Green

Joe D


Me too! Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile
clausb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:12 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

Hmm...

Something like this...?

Tiger I
Longevity: About 2 years. - 1 point
Versatility : Sturmtiger... and thats about it - 1 points
Adoption : One sold to Japan, never left Europe, perhaps a few others? - 1 Point
Combat Record : Impressive - for about a year or two. - 6 points
Innovation: Not really.. 0 Points

Total: 9 points out of 50. What a sucker! Wink

cbo
Back to top
View user's profile
oldertop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:02 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

Having spent over 20 years in armor, tanks, amtracks, SP arty, and anti-tank vehicles and been on the receiving end of anti-armor weapons and mines the one thing I looked at was crew survieability such as that rolling death trap the LVTP-5 and its family..say 6 points as tops . This and services/maintance.
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:10 am
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- Joe_D
This will get ugly,
...
With that in mind, I will abstain from this fray for now. Mr. Green

Joe D


Chicken!

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:14 am
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

I think reliability ought to be a factor too, you can have a fine design but if it don't run, what good is it?

Piney
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:34 am
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

My top 5 in no particular order of the 'modern era...


1) IPM1 very reliable; Great M68 Gun with the good ole 105mm round. perhaps best in Korea.

No real service except COLD WAR. Mr. Green

2) M1A1HC (bugs worked out and very reliable) Iraqi Freedom service. Finally got cannister round to fill that void.

3) Leo I
Mass produced and widely used. Continually upgraded to be relivant.

4)Leo II
Improved FCS along with Hunter/Killer TC sight (CITV on M1A2 idea is borrowed from LEO II)

Not sure of any combat service (Does OOTW in KOSOVO count??)

5) Chieftain (of course)

Hard to do, but MHO and didn't want to shy away from the topic. Going closed hatch, for the counter-fire.

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Coldsteel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:31 am
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- piney
Boy is this thread gonna get bloody Laughing

My vote is the M4 Sherman for the following reasons
used by
...,Australia,...


No it wasn't. We got 3 of them and they were only for trials.
Back to top
View user's profile
clausb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:15 am
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- piney
Boy is this thread gonna get bloody Laughing

My vote is the M4 Sherman for the following reasons
used by
...Denmark...


Denmark got 8 M4A3E4 and one M32B1 in 1952. The M32B1 wasn't really used for a couple of years, then it was used to tow Centurions for a while before being used to tow M10s. Was scrapped at the end of the 1950ies. The M4A3E4s were used briefly for training (in case of war, a reduced squadron was to be formed), then used for tasks like observation on the firing range, only to be scrapped in the late 1950ies as well. Rather short and inglorious career.

M10s, however, were delivered from 1953 and served until 1982!
Back to top
View user's profile
oldertop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:28 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

I would like to noinate the Renault FT-17 light tank as the number one tank, after all if it wasn't for this "tank" we wouldn't know what a tank looked like. Its design layout was proved to a winner, were would we be without the turret with the main gun(s) mounted in it! all the major world powers built a variation or copy of it, in service for over 20 years. Just think about it, a bunch of frenchmen put their heads together and come up with the idea of taking a new never seen before on a battlefield armored tacked innovation and placeing the weapons system in a revolving turret for all around deployment and this idea is still in use over 90 years later. Its another "knock-my-socks-off" thing.
Back to top
View user's profile
SHAWN
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Posts: 484

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:15 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

thank you oldertop!!! at times i feel like i am by my lonesome on this point. yes, that is why i mentioned reliability... that knocks out alot of contentors that otherwise would be at the top of the list...
they just touched on it briefly on the littlefield panther overhaul when they talked about the maybach engine and the trans... very inadequate for such a heavy tank. but anyway...

i will sound biased by i rate anglo/western armor among the best.

i put the M1 abrams breed at the top of the list. i put the T34 and M4 at the very tops of my list
followed the Leo II and Challenger,
the Patton series makes the list (werent perfect but lead to the place we are today, was imported abroad, saw wide use in many foreign services, has had a fair combat record). as known, the qualities of the crews are just as important as the quality of the tanks so the
russian T55 (T series) follows closely due to its wide use and importation, combat record.
the M4 series and T34 make the list. the both series saw more importation, modification, and combat than probably any other 2 tanks in history... the israelis pushed the M4 longevity and evolution to the max! (M4 is mechanically reliable.)
the T34 makes my reliability rating (not that in my mind it equals the western automotive standards). alot of credit, it was made to survive the very hot and very cold weather extremes of the russian front/E. europe. what the hell, tigers and panthers are frozen but the 34’s keep on a rolling.
german armor though fearsome and good at tank killing, make the very bottom of my list due to reliability and the whole logistical/mechanically flawed design aspects... the elephant still sits in the back of my mind because it has an electric drive trans.

shawn
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
oldertop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:23 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

For most of my military career the big boogyman tank was the T54,55,and 62, all you ever heard was how good they were, how effective they were, every military magzine, book that brought up tanks , every "paper expert" couldn't praise it enough. Then one day in late 1978 my CO (at Mirmar NAS) calls me and says clear a space for a lowboy in your barn, it'll be there for a week or so. So up drives this M-123 tacktor which parks a canvas covered lowboy in my center bay and drives off. Well now it looks like a tank and I and my crew are itching to take a look, just then a door bangs open and its my CO and our tank-leadership instructor, the boss say go ahead pull the tarp..and what do you think...its a T62, a gift from one of our middle eastern friends to the U.S. After a good-looking over inside and out my you couldn't pay me to go to war in that pile of over rated junk!, by the way the reason it was sent to Mirmar was to be "de-gusezed ".
PS.. after pokeing around in Jacque Littlefields T72 feel sorry for the crews who have't fight in them, you had better be 5' nothing high and pray not to take a hit any where because you'll never get out in one piece
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:41 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

- oldertop
For most of my military career the big boogyman tank was the T54,55,and 62, all you ever heard was how good they were, how effective they were, every military magzine, book that brought up tanks , every "paper expert" couldn't praise it enough. Then one day in late 1978 my CO (at Mirmar NAS) calls me and says clear a space for a lowboy in your barn, it'll be there for a week or so. So up drives this M-123 tacktor which parks a canvas covered lowboy in my center bay and drives off. Well now it looks like a tank and I and my crew are itching to take a look, just then a door bangs open and its my CO and our tank-leadership instructor, the boss say go ahead pull the tarp..and what do you think...its a T62, a gift from one of our middle eastern friends to the U.S. After a good-looking over inside and out my you couldn't pay me to go to war in that pile of over rated junk!, by the way the reason it was sent to Mirmar was to be "de-gusezed ".
PS.. after pokeing around in Jacque Littlefields T72 feel sorry for the crews who have't fight in them, you had better be 5' nothing high and pray not to take a hit any where because you'll never get out in one piece


I don't know if Roy was still there or recalls this event, but when I was waiting to manifest out of Vietnam, a demo was arranged at Long Binh between a well-used M48 and a captured T54/55 (or Chinese Type 69 or whatever) in a huge dirt arena and to everyones' surprise, it did NOT run rings around the M48. Furthermore, the turret rotation speed was almost half the rate of the 48. Placed side-by-side, vehicles that had both spent time "in the field", that well worn Patton came off instilling a lot of confidence in those present who were 11 Echos.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:24 pm
Post subject: Re: AFV News Discussion Board's top ten tanks!

I would say that we should keep away from listing the least favorite so not to insult any of the diverse contributors to this site.

If in the service of ones 'home' country, there tends to be no choice in the types of vehicles utilized. No one wants to man the worst Tank in the world. If thats what you find yourself on, you try to do the best job possible.

Lets keep this a top 10....

JMHO
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum