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Taranov · Last edited by Taranov on Sun May 10, 2009 7:35 am; edited 1 time in total

Same place, where has been recovered T-34 "Sniper" (now in running condition, Kubinka tank museum).
iluki.ru/gorod/foto/3959/#iluki

Tank have nickname "Smeliy" (Brave), tactical markings same, than T-34 "Sniper". No crew inside.

Taranov

Video, on russian:
www.tv100.ru/news/V-Ps...awili-tank

Tank lost in 12 december 1942

TrevorLarkum

Very interesting.

Rikard_Hufschmied

- Taranov

Same place, where has been recovered T-34 "Sniper" (now in running condition, Kubinka tank museum).
iluki.ru/gorod/foto/3959/#iluki

Tank have nickname "Smeliy" (Brave), tactical markings same, than T-34 "Sniper". No crew inside.

Do you have any idea how hard it is not read it as "Smelly"? Smile

bsmart

- Rikard_Hufschmied

- Taranov

Same place, where has been recovered T-34 "Sniper" (now in running condition, Kubinka tank museum).
iluki.ru/gorod/foto/3959/#iluki

Tank have nickname "Smeliy" (Brave), tactical markings same, than T-34 "Sniper". No crew inside.

Do you have any idea how hard it is not read it as "Smelly"?

The crew obviously liked apricots Mr. Green

JeffStringer · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 637

Seriously!! Can you image pulling something like that out of your own land? I couldn't get that lucky, even if I lived over there ... what a treat that would be!!

I wonder if they have any weird laws that would prevent the land owner from keeping it?

Rikard_Hufschmied

- JeffStringer

Seriously!! Can you image pulling something like that out of your own land? I couldn't get that lucky, even if I lived over there ... what a treat that would be!!

I wonder if they have any weird laws that would prevent the land owner from keeping it?

Yes they have but I don't remember how severe they are, Taranov might be able to fill in?

Doug_Kibbey

Fantastic stuff, Taranov, thanks for posting!

What might you know about the generation of old folks present receiving flowers and recognition....family of crew (since the vehicle was identified) or just locals who were around during the Great Patriotic War? I guess the latter since they seem to have been there from before the vehicle was extracted and identified.

Was there a combat load of ammunition on board that had to be removed/disposed of?

What can you tell us about the local area and action in which these vehicles came to be lost (if you know)?

Taranov

They not lost in action.
Ordinary incident: they have map, where area looks like field, and arrived on the frozen swamp..

Dontos

They had never heard of the old Ft Polk proverb

'Don't go where the yellow flowers grow'

Great post, thanks

Don

Maple_Leaf_Eh · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 517

It looks like those Russians had three choices of dress of the day - camouflage, jeans or "street" clothes.

the_shadock

the original paint job is interesting. But for sure it will be repainted, such a shame..

P-O

Taranov

They can't see any flowers in december Smile

Rikard_Hufschmied

... as was illustrated by a field lecture we were given on map reading on a a cold day in February. On a trailer, as a side-scene, was an S-tank that stunk to high heaven of bog, peat, mud and ice was peeling of it in chunks.

A bog looks like any other clearing, field and (god forbid) lake with 3 feet of snow on it. As the Major said, with a sweeping gesture to the tank in the backdrop - So ... CHECK THE MAP, and be DAMN CERTAIN on where YOU are on the map!!!

It's all to easy now with a bulls-eye GPS in every cell-phone.

the_shadock

hello,

it appears that "the brave" has ended up at the Stalin Line museum in Belarus :

I've compared the tank that was recovered in 2009 in Russia and this one, thet are identical on the photos (same side mudguards, same type of roadwheels etc..), so no doubt that it is the same tank. I wonder how it ended up in Belarus (just like the Panzer III).

P-O

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