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Whenever that time will arrive we should try to assemble a group of AFV enthusiast from Europe and join for a visit


Excellent idea ! Given a reasonable amount of notice to plan, I will be there.

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...........the dismantling of the Patton Museum


EEEEK! Does this mean our Patron Saint will be cast to the winds of time??????


The Patton legacy will remain intact in its present location. The museum will be renamed the General George S. Patton Museum and his mementos, medals, uniforms and personal vehicles will remain. That is all that will remain untouched. There will be a few vehicles and ordnance left that will tell the story of Fort Knox and the 60+ years of armor training. However, much of the museum will be shared by other entities on post such as Human Resources Command, Accession Command, Recruitment Command and others.

Right now the Patton family wants his stuff to remain at F ort Knox, however, when the new museum is built, and because Patton was stationed three times at Benning and none at Fort Knox, they may prefer his memorabilia moved there too.

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Agree!

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It's sad, though once Benning is open I can see it being unmissable (I suspect I won't be able to resist making a trip from England to see it).

Whenever that time will arrive we should try to assemble a group of AFV enthusiast from Europe and join for a visit Cool

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Thanks Doug. I don't think I really did much at the time. It was actually during a 'weird' time. Just glad you had fun.

Times are a whole lot better now, even with all that is going on with the movement.

But it is always nice to 'play host' and contribute to a fulfilling visit.

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Let's just say I'm happy that I visited Knox in '06, and that there were good people like Don who helped myself and others make the most of it.
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Bob

Yup. Remember BRAC is supposed to save money (??!!) But they really overlooked a massive funding drain, when they failed to fully consider moving the Ord Museum & the Armor/Cavalry Museums when realigning APG & Ft Knox.

You would not believe the constant problem solving that takes place caused by some clueless BRAC 'bean counter' trying to micromanage the current mission.

Personally I don't like or agree with this mess, but I continue to assist where ever I can due to some good people trying to do the best to preserve Armor & Cavalry History, a cause I 'signed on with' years ago when I became a volunteer.

Years from now (& it will be YEARS !) when the new museum opens, it will hopefully be the amazing facility that is currently only on paper.

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Indeed, I feel like the Ordnance and Patton's move are not part of the BRAC, but more likely part of the MRAC (Museums Relocation Across the Country)..

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Actually the museums were not even directly addressed in BRAC. The Army's view was the 'Museum is a part of the school so whereever the school goes, so goes the Museum. And the costs of movng the Museums were not directly addressed. My opinion is that everyone viewed them as just another office or shop with X number of people assigned and a formula used. I don't think anyone considered the size or fragility of the artifacts

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National Armor and Cavalry Museum at Fort Benning

That makes a lot of sense.

Len is a former Marine and a stand-up guy that has brought a lot of energy and knowledge to the museum. He knows how to get things done and has been dedicated to making the museum better while working hard on the transition to the new museum.


Now I can exhale. Laughing

...........the dismantling of the Patton Museum


EEEEK! Does this mean our Patron Saint will be cast to the winds of time??????
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Garry

Well said. I don't think I could have expressed it any better myself.

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Indeed, I feel like the Ordnance and Patton's move are not part of the BRAC, but more likely part of the MRAC (Museums Relocation Across the Country)..

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Len Dyer, the current director of the Patton Museum, will be the new director of the National Armor and Cavalry Museum at Fort Benning. Len is a former Marine and a stand-up guy that has brought a lot of energy and knowledge to the museum. He knows how to get things done and has been dedicated to making the museum better while working hard on the transition to the new museum. While knowing that his goal is ultimately the dismantling of the Patton Museum, we all like him and respect him. I know that the vehicles and weapons will be in good hands and he will one day have a first class armor museum. I wish him well.

As for other staff going down, no, they won't. He has invited any Patton Museum volunteers to move down to volunteer with the new museum.

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I'm still afraid that once the vehicles go into storage someone will decide there isn't enough money in the budget budget for the new museum and it won't get built (The same fear I have for the Ordnance Museum) Is the director of the museum moving to Benning? what about any other staff?

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End of an era. Never thought Fort Knox would ever stop being the home of Armor. Seems like with every year passing more of what I was part of is disappearing.

I hate to think how long it will be before these old girls will be accessible again and if the new owners will be as accommodating.

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A few shots of the 1st Convoy 'pre-staging'.




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