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bialy-r · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: Re: What is that ?

?? in Artillery School, Idar Oberstein (Germany)

C_Sherman · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 590

- bialy-r

What is the name of the first Chinese version of ZSU-57-2 that we can see on this page ?

mig29.egloos.com/1233245

The second and third are:
Type 80 - Chinese SPAAG. It has the same turret as the ZSU-57-2, but it is armed with the Type 59 twin anti-aircraft autocannon (a copy of the Soviet S-68), mounted on the chassis of a Chinese Type 69-II MBT.

Hi,

I spy, with my little eye...at least three (four?) different chassis under that one turret! There's definitely the Type 59/69 (can't see the rear of the second one, so can't be sure of type). The first (Type 69) seems to have Arabic or Sanskrit script on the turret side.

There also appears to be a shortened T54/55 (Type 59/69) hull, and what looks a lot like one of the more modern Chinese AFV chassis. No idea which one, though...

C

bialy-r · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

What is the name of the first Chinese version of ZSU-57-2 that we can see on this page ?

mig29.egloos.com/1233245

The second and third are:
Type 80 - Chinese SPAAG. It has the same turret as the ZSU-57-2, but it is armed with the Type 59 twin anti-aircraft autocannon (a copy of the Soviet S-68), mounted on the chassis of a Chinese Type 69-II MBT.

bialy-r · Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: Re: What is that ?

www.flickr.com/photos/...398704536/
Description:
Home Guard improvised armoured car, Shoreham Air Show 16.09.07.

This can't be an original Home Guard improvised armoured car ?

bialy-r · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

- JimWeb

There are a couple but I think the vast majority were sold to Taiwan.

In Neil USA Register there is none M733

JimWeb · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

- bialy-r

Are there any M733 in USA ?

There are a couple but I think the vast majority were sold to Taiwan.

JimWeb · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

- JiriTintera

M733 or XM733
This is an appropriate question for the Marine Corps Mechanized Museum at Camp Pendleton?

Not really the differences between the M733 & XM733 are pretty straight forward...

JiriTintera · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

M733 or XM733
This is an appropriate question for the Marine Corps Mechanized Museum at Camp Pendleton?

Camp Pendleton Museums Office = mcbcampen.history.fct @ usmc.mil

bialy-r · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: Re: What is that ?

Are there any M733 in USA ?

JimWeb · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

Nothing unusual its just an M733

Pzkpfw-e · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jul 21, 2010 Posts: 1202

Weird creation, even more from the front!
www.flickr.com/photos/...682610713/

bialy-r · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

M??? in Hsinchu (Taiwan)

www.flickr.com/photos/...682610713/

Are some of them preserved in USA ?

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

- bialy-r

Is that a M551

A Sheridan in Bergen, Norway :)?
www.flickr.com/photos/...539332173/

...or facsimile. Doesn't look quite right to me, but that's what it's intended to resemble.

The star on the rear is in WAY the wrong place, the headlight covers look funny, as do the hatches. Maybe a CONEX box will support nearly 17 tons, but it seems risky. The water barrier covers look entirely artificial (most rot away in the elements, and look black & white where neoprene and cord get exposed). I strongly suspect it was a model of some kind.

Sheridans do turn up in some unexpected places. like one in Latrun, Israel.

bialy-r · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: What is that ?

Is that a M551

A Sheridan in Bergen, Norway :)?
www.flickr.com/photos/...539332173/

VonForhud · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2010 Posts: 162

I think the wrecks of WWII in the desert come and go with the wind, one day coverede the next day visible.

We had a bunker in Denmark that was hidden under sand dunes for 64 years that suddenly appeared on the beach because of a storm.

Everything was still as the Germans left it in 1945 except for the signs of age.

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