±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 795
Total: 795
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: CPGlang
07: Member Screenshots
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Downloads
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Your Account
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Your Account
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Statistics
29: Community Forums
30: Downloads
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Downloads
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Member Screenshots
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: CPGlang
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Your Account
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Member Screenshots
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Community Forums
62: Member Screenshots
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Downloads
77: CPGlang
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Member Screenshots
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Photo Gallery
94: Photo Gallery
95: Photo Gallery
96: News Archive
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Photo Gallery
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Community Forums
107: Downloads
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Photo Gallery
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Your Account
119: Community Forums
120: Photo Gallery
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Your Account
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: CPGlang
139: Community Forums
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Community Forums
151: Your Account
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Your Account
156: Community Forums
157: Downloads
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Downloads
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Member Screenshots
171: Community Forums
172: Member Screenshots
173: Home
174: Home
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Home
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: News Archive
197: Member Screenshots
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Statistics
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: CPGlang
204: Photo Gallery
205: Community Forums
206: Member Screenshots
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Photo Gallery
213: Photo Gallery
214: Community Forums
215: Downloads
216: Community Forums
217: Statistics
218: Statistics
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Photo Gallery
222: Photo Gallery
223: Home
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Photo Gallery
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Photo Gallery
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Downloads
259: News
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Photo Gallery
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Photo Gallery
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: CPGlang
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Member Screenshots
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Downloads
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: News
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Home
305: Home
306: Photo Gallery
307: Home
308: CPGlang
309: Community Forums
310: News
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Photo Gallery
314: Photo Gallery
315: Downloads
316: CPGlang
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Your Account
322: CPGlang
323: Photo Gallery
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: CPGlang
334: Community Forums
335: CPGlang
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Downloads
354: Downloads
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Photo Gallery
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Photo Gallery
365: Photo Gallery
366: Downloads
367: Home
368: Statistics
369: Community Forums
370: Your Account
371: Photo Gallery
372: Home
373: News
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Your Account
385: Photo Gallery
386: Photo Gallery
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Photo Gallery
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Member Screenshots
399: Home
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Photo Gallery
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Member Screenshots
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Photo Gallery
420: Photo Gallery
421: Downloads
422: Community Forums
423: Photo Gallery
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Photo Gallery
427: Your Account
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Home
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Photo Gallery
444: Community Forums
445: Home
446: Photo Gallery
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: News Archive
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Photo Gallery
454: Community Forums
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Home
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Home
462: Photo Gallery
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Member Screenshots
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: CPGlang
469: Photo Gallery
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Member Screenshots
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Photo Gallery
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Your Account
493: Community Forums
494: Statistics
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Member Screenshots
502: Downloads
503: Photo Gallery
504: Photo Gallery
505: Downloads
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: CPGlang
509: Community Forums
510: Member Screenshots
511: Community Forums
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Photo Gallery
515: Downloads
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Photo Gallery
520: Downloads
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Photo Gallery
532: Community Forums
533: Your Account
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Your Account
542: Your Account
543: Photo Gallery
544: Photo Gallery
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Home
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Downloads
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Photo Gallery
562: Home
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Photo Gallery
567: Community Forums
568: CPGlang
569: Downloads
570: Downloads
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Downloads
578: Photo Gallery
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Downloads
582: Photo Gallery
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: CPGlang
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Home
593: Photo Gallery
594: Home
595: Member Screenshots
596: Statistics
597: Photo Gallery
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Home
601: Photo Gallery
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Community Forums
607: Photo Gallery
608: Photo Gallery
609: Community Forums
610: Downloads
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Photo Gallery
617: Community Forums
618: Photo Gallery
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Photo Gallery
624: Community Forums
625: News Archive
626: Community Forums
627: Your Account
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: Community Forums
631: Statistics
632: Home
633: Home
634: Photo Gallery
635: Community Forums
636: News
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: CPGlang
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Contact
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Home
649: Community Forums
650: Home
651: Home
652: Home
653: Your Account
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Home
658: Community Forums
659: Photo Gallery
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: CPGlang
663: Photo Gallery
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Downloads
667: Your Account
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: CPGlang
671: Photo Gallery
672: Statistics
673: Community Forums
674: Downloads
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Photo Gallery
679: Community Forums
680: Your Account
681: CPGlang
682: Community Forums
683: CPGlang
684: Community Forums
685: Photo Gallery
686: Community Forums
687: Home
688: Community Forums
689: Photo Gallery
690: Community Forums
691: Home
692: Community Forums
693: Statistics
694: Home
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: CPGlang
700: Community Forums
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Photo Gallery
705: CPGlang
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Photo Gallery
710: Community Forums
711: Photo Gallery
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Community Forums
715: Community Forums
716: Photo Gallery
717: Community Forums
718: Community Forums
719: Community Forums
720: Downloads
721: Community Forums
722: Photo Gallery
723: Community Forums
724: News
725: Community Forums
726: Your Account
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Community Forums
730: Community Forums
731: Home
732: Community Forums
733: Downloads
734: Community Forums
735: Community Forums
736: Community Forums
737: Community Forums
738: Community Forums
739: Community Forums
740: Your Account
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Community Forums
744: Home
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Photo Gallery
748: Home
749: Community Forums
750: Community Forums
751: Community Forums
752: Photo Gallery
753: Community Forums
754: Home
755: Community Forums
756: Statistics
757: Home
758: Community Forums
759: Community Forums
760: Home
761: Community Forums
762: Community Forums
763: Community Forums
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: Downloads
767: Member Screenshots
768: Photo Gallery
769: Community Forums
770: Community Forums
771: Community Forums
772: Community Forums
773: Community Forums
774: Photo Gallery
775: Community Forums
776: Community Forums
777: Community Forums
778: Photo Gallery
779: Your Account
780: Downloads
781: Member Screenshots
782: Community Forums
783: Community Forums
784: Community Forums
785: Community Forums
786: Community Forums
787: Community Forums
788: Community Forums
789: Community Forums
790: Community Forums
791: Community Forums
792: Photo Gallery
793: Photo Gallery
794: Home
795: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
geoffsteer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 114

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:51 pm
Post subject: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

Hi Guys-
Still researching the BR-52. I have yet to find pictures of a BR-52 with the Trumpeter type smoke deflectors. That may not be anything to worry about as there are not a great amount of war time photos of BR-52s out there. I have found alot of great sites with good technical info on the BR-52 without seeing any pictures of the Trumpeter type smoke deflectors. Much mention has been made of the smoke deflectors on various forums without giving a clear picture as to just how common or uncommon they actually were. I would be willing to bet that some after market company will address this issue by providing us with the more commonly seen smoke deflectors. Trouble is, any after market smoke deflectors will most likely be included in an enormous p/e set that will cost an enormous amount of money with a staggering amount of parts that I'll never use all of! Obviously, there are two options here, one would be to just leave the smoke deflectors off as there are alot of pictures of BR-52s minus the deflectors. The other option would be to scratch build our own deflectors as some of them appear to be quite simplistic in shape.
With thanks-
Geoff Steer [;-{/)
Back to top
View user's profile
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

Geoff,

I recall seeing mention somewhere that certain bits of the Trump BR52 are actually postwar (Chinese?) mods. Not certain that the smoke deflectors are such mods, but there is a tiny voice in the back of my memory that insists that they were specifically mentioned. I'm sorry, but I don't remember where I saw that conversation (ML, maybe?).

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Jens_O_Mehner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 511
Location: Giessen, Germany
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

Geoff,

apparently the smoke deflectors provided by Trumpeter were a pre-production thingy or something along those lines, you're safe with either leaving them off or scratching the more common Witte deflectors.

Cheers,

Jens O.
Back to top
View user's profile
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

S!

As far as my info goes none of the BR-52's where fitted with the smoke deflectors at delivery during the war period, they would use valuable resources (material) and that's something they wanted to save on.

So most likely all the ones shown with smoke deflectors are post-war adaptations.

Problem is no one can be for a 100% shure as the info regarding this locomotives is to say the least rather sparse.


fled
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

- Uhu_Fledermaus
S!

As far as my info goes none of the BR-52's where fitted with the smoke deflectors at delivery during the war period, they would use valuable resources (material) and that's something they wanted to save on.

So most likely all the ones shown with smoke deflectors are post-war adaptations.

Problem is no one can be for a 100% shure as the info regarding this locomotives is to say the least rather sparse.

chug
fled
I remember reading somewhere recently that the smoke deflectors were eliminated during the war to save resources but that during rework after the war they were added. It was recently because the whole reason I stopped and read the longcaption under the picture (It was in a coffee table type train book) was because my eye saw BR-52 and the discussion was going on here.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Indrakrishnamurti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 12, 2006
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:20 am
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncommon?

Dear all,

Based on my understanding of the build-up review of the CMK Kriegslokomotive, it seems that the composite (timber and metal) smoke deflector used on the model is a one-off field modification. And it was scratchbuilt by the modeler, who also replaced the steps in front of the smokebox with a different version.

S, there is no such thing like a Chinese Kriegslok. The China Railways did have several Resita-built copies of the BR 50, but these have Japanese style tenders and a larger cab more suitable to the Chinese loading gauge. And no, these do not look at all like the Trumpeter (or CMK) model.

The smoke deflectors used before the war were larger, looking like elephant-ears. These were called "Wagner" types. The wartime smoke deflectors are smaller rectangles of metal, either curved or bent, but rarely straight. These are the "Witte" deflectors.

Photographs of these are available on the Internet, or you might want to look at any model locomotive manufacturer catalogs.

Leaving the smoke deflectors would be a very viable and prototypical option.

Best,

Indra
Back to top
View user's profile
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncomm

I don't know if it is a BR52 locomotive but around in februari 2002 we were going on FTX in Vogelsang. The German railways didn't have any modern diesel / electric locomotive to pull from the Dutch / German border to Vogelsang.

To our surprise they took a 140 ton steamlocomotive from 1942 with Deutsche reichbahn signs on it put it front of our Leopard 2s, PRTLS (NL Gepard) and M577's. On our question that this was probably not the first time that this locomotive pulled German armour to the east the around 70 year old ''lokomotivenfuhrer'' smiled.....

On my question if it was possible to hitch a ride on the locomotive the answered positive and had the trainride of my life. Putting coal on the fire to bring our my tank to Vogelsang. With 14 Leopard, 1 Leopard 2recovery, 2 Leopard 1recovery, 5 M577 and 5 PRTLs this locomotive was capable of reaching around 70 - 80 km/h.

The only problem was a steep hill which the loc could not climb the first time. It drove back several kilometers, there the two crewman stopped the train and put so much coal that the needle on the pressuregauge was against the red. At that moment the whole loc was shaking, steam hissing with clouds of sparks . They released the brakes and then we reached the top of the hill.

OK, it has nothing to do with modelling, but it was the most impressive trainride I made

www.sytzama.nl/reghuzsytz-c10.jpg

www.sytzama.nl/reghuzsytz-c12.jpg
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncomm

- L.Delsing
I don't know if it is a BR52 locomotive but around in februari 2002 we were going on FTX in Vogelsang. The German railways didn't have any modern diesel / electric locomotive to pull from the Dutch / German border to Vogelsang.

To our surprise they took a 140 ton steamlocomotive from 1942 with Deutsche reichbahn signs on it put it front of our Leopard 2s, PRTLS (NL Gepard) and M577's. On our question that this was probably not the first time that this locomotive pulled German armour to the east the around 70 year old ''lokomotivenfuhrer'' smiled.....

On my question if it was possible to hitch a ride on the locomotive the answered positive and had the trainride of my life. Putting coal on the fire to bring our my tank to Vogelsang. With 14 Leopard, 1 Leopard 2recovery, 2 Leopard 1recovery, 5 M577 and 5 PRTLs this locomotive was capable of reaching around 70 - 80 km/h.

The only problem was a steep hill which the loc could not climb the first time. It drove back several kilometers, there the two crewman stopped the train and put so much coal that the needle on the pressuregauge was against the red. At that moment the whole loc was shaking, steam hissing with clouds of sparks . They released the brakes and then we reached the top of the hill.

OK, it has nothing to do with modelling, but it was the most impressive trainride I made

www.sytzama.nl/reghuzsytz-c10.jpg

www.sytzama.nl/reghuzsytz-c12.jpg


Wicked cool story, Lesley....thanks for sharing! (You only got two pictures?! Confused )
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Smoke deflectors in Trumpeter's BR-52, how common/uncomm

Yep, just two pictures Sad Sad The two black and white pictures are from the camera of my driver....
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum