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Kurt_Laughlin · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 577

I'm pretty sure these two are the relatively rare M3A4s with the Chrysler Multibank engines:

M-3 Tank exiting flat car Louisiana Maneuvers 8x10 1942

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M-3 Medium Tank on flat car Camp Polk LA 8x10 1942

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Note the bogie spacing, omission of side doors, lack of rivets at bottom edge of side plate at extreme rear, and use of "M4 type" bogies.

KL

Dennis_Smith · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 192

Anybody know what kind of machine gun this is?

Taranov · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Browning M2, or M1921

piney · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

It's the liquid cooled model, That maybe what's throwing you off

Jeff Lewis

Dennis_Smith · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 192

Thanks guys, I understand the water cooled part, but what are the cables and hoses going to the sight? It seems like an early period to have predictor sights on a gun??

Joe_D · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Actually,

There should be two hoses attached to the weapon for the water jacket that allows the expanding water to collect in a condensor. The water cooled version .50 Cal is a pretty bulky weapon, these are probably part of an Air Defense unit set up, the condensor would be located away as to not get in the way of the crew.

Now that funky sight.... Neutral

, Maybe some training device, it's obvious the weapon isn't loaded or has been fired. Where's all the expended brass??? Those two guys staring intently at their "Box?" might be an early Fire Direction Center crew or could be operating the funky sight inputting, dare I say, "Data Shocked

?"

Joe D

Dennis_Smith · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 192

The two water hoses are visible in this photo. Also 2 cables to the gunsight. (??)

Joe_D · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Interesting Dennis,

Any captions with the pictures?? Might be some new fangled sighting device that never got adopted, BTW, any idea who the civilian is???

Joe D

Dennis_Smith · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 192

Joe, those two photos are in the collection that Taranov posted (on page 2). Caption says "Rep Buell 1st Army AA gun Carolina Maneuvers 8x10 1941"

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

The example in the 11th Cav museum, Ft. Irwin: (obviously the hose is just sort of "stuck in there", no fitting)

piney · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

I note the box at middle left has what appears to be fittings for 3 more units ( unused at the moment) perhaps it was some sort of experimental fire direction control device for a multiple gun AA battery Rolling Eyes

Jeff Lewis

Taranov · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Fixed - links only

13th Cav Mech 68th FA half-track maneuvers 8x10 1940

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U S Army Half-track Personnel Carrier 8x10 1940

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8th Inf Half-track personnel Carrier Ft Benning GA 1941

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Half-track maneuvers Desert TC Indio CA 8x10 1942

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White Motor Co Half-track in Ft Hayes test 8x10 1941

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Half-track thru Separate Chem Bn smokescreen 8x10 1942

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Half-track fords stream Tennessee Maneuvers 8x10 1942

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1st Cav Combat Cars Tanks in water Ft Knox 8x10 1938

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Wire fouls tank treads Ft Belvoir VA 8x10 1940

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67th Inf M-2 Medium Tanks 3rd Army Maneuvers 8x10 1940

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2nd Tank Co stumped Texas P2D Maneuvers 8x10 1939

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67th Inf tanks Ft Benning War Games 8x10 1939

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66th Inf tank exits shell crater Ft Meade 8x10 1939

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6th Inf Tank tops 5th Eng parapet Ft Belvoir 8x10 1939

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Engineers 12x5' ditch foils tank in test 8x10 1939

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Uneven railroad piles stop tank in test 8x10 1938

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66th Inf tank on maneuvers Fort Meade MD 8x10 1938

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1st Tank Regiment heavy tank Ft Leonard Wood 6x8 1928

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13th Cav Combat Car tank Fort Knox KY 8x10 1938

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Armor-piercing bullet holes old tank Ft Riley 8x10 1938

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2nd Armored tanks & air support Ft Benning 8x10 1941

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1st Armored tank demo for newsreels Ft Knox 8x10 1941

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West Point cadets in tanks Aberdeen MD 8x10 1941

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1st Armored M-3 tanks Congress demo Ft Knox 8x10 1941

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1st Army tank cracks bridge deck Monroe NC 8x10 1941

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M-3 Tank HQ 7th Armored Louisiana Maneuvers 8x10 1942

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Tanks on flat cars 3rd Army Louisiana Maneuvers 1942

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Train load 3rd Army M-3 Tanks Louisiana 8x10 1942

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Tank on pontoon bridge Pee Dee River NC 8x10 1942

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5 M-3 Tanks cross pontoon bridge Pee Dee NC 8x10 1942

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1st Inf Tank Co Flagpole Miller Field NY 8x10 1941

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Medium tank enters ferry Fort Knox KY 8x10 1941

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1st Armored tank refueling Baker Rd Fort Knox 8x10 1941

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1st Armored M-3 Tanks on train Rock Hill SC 8x10 1941

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Gen Grant medium tanks Desert TC Indio CA 8x10 1942

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16th Eng ferry 1st Armored Tank Ft Knox 8x10 1941

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66th Armored tank 111th Eng road Louisiana 8x8 1941

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Infantry behind M-3 tank smoke screen Ft Knox 8x10 1942

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M-3 tank dusts up on Carolina Maneuvers 8x10 1942

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27th Div Anti-tank Bn night action Louisiana 8x10 1941

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2nd Armored Scout Car on war game maneuvers 8x10 1942

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1st Armored Car Squadron Johnson's Ranch TX 6x8 1933

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Cavalry Scout Car at Fort Knox KY 8x10 1939

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13th Cav M-3 Scout Car armed gun shields 8x10 1939

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13th Cav Scout Car M22 & M21 MG Mounted 8x10 1939

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102nd Cav Mech Scout Car Camden SC 8x10 1941

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1st Cav Machine Gun troop White Scout Cars 8x10 1941

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29th Inf machine gun crew Fort Benning 8x10 1941

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29th Infantry machine gun troops Ft Benning 8x10 1941

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Cpl Nightengale & machine gun 1st Armored LA 8x10 1941

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Air attack Texaco machine gun defense Lake Charles 1941

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4th Armored Scout & Command Cars Pine Camp NY 8x10 1941

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1st Armored half-tracks on train Carolina 8x10 1941

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2nd Armored men break for snack Carolina 8x10 1942

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1st Cav Armored Cars inspection line Ft Riley 6x8 1934

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1st Armored cars & air support demo Ft Knox 8x10 1941

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White flag 2nd Armored pontoon bridge Pee Dee 8x10 1942

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Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Taranov,

While we (and I) really appreciate these wonderful pictures, we also need that you take a moment and read Fledermaus' "announcement" at the top of the forum and the related thread:

www.com-central.net/in...amp;t=7961

...and edit your post to contain a maximum of ten images. It would best then I think to start another thread with the next ten since we don't know where the page will break, and another for the next ten, and so on. If you could attend to that immediately, I'm sure the Admin & Moderator staff would appreciate it as well as those on dial-up. Thanks!

Doug

Taranov · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

New pics, links only

3rd Army M-3 Tank night action Louisiana 8x10 1941
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17th Eng 2nd Armored form road for tank Montrose LA
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68th Armored Rgt 2nd Armored M-3 tank Louisiana 1941
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2nd Army tank fires at "enemy" plane Mt Carmel LA 1941
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2nd Armored Medium Tank Louisiana? 8x10 1941
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Tanks pass in review Fort Benning GA 8x10 1940
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1st Army tank knocks down tree Carolina 8x10 1941
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1st Armored tank train Ft Knox-Rock Hill SC 8x10 1941
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1st Army tank train en route to Rock Hill SC 8x10 1941
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27th Div 37mm Anti-tank Crew Ft McClellan 8x10 1941
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3rd Army 75mm Anti-tank gun Louisiana Maneuvers 1941
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1st Army 37mm anti-tank crew Camden SC 8x10 1941
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37mm & 75mm Anti-tank guns defend Lake Charles LA 1941
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t5894a.jpg
Provisional Tank Destroyer Bn Half-tracks Ft Meade 1941
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37mm Anti-tank gun T1 R elev Rock Island Arsenal 1938
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75mm Anti-tank gun Sheldon-McCreary Rd WA 8x10 1941
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Infantry tanks night advance Ft Benning 8x10 1939
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Simulated artillery attacks tanks Ft Benning 8x10 1939
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5th Eng anti-tank test 66th Inf Ft Meade 8x10 1939
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5th Eng Anti-tank stump field 66th Inf Ft Meade 1939
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5th Eng wire tank trap 66th Inf Ft Meade 8x10 1939
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66th Inf Tank exits shell crater Ft Belvoir 8x10 1939
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67th Inf Tanks on break Ft Benning War Games 8x10 1939
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t6117a.jpg
Tank climbs out of ditch Ft Belvoir VA 8x10 1940
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Tank enters wire trap in test Ft Belvoir VA 8x10 1940
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Tanks prep for Congressional Demo Ft Knox 8x10
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9th Inf load anti-tank on plane Duncan Field 8x10 1941
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Half-track fire on "enemy" Carolina Maneuvers 8x10
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White Half-track scout car test run Ft Hayes 8x10 1941
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Five White Half-track Scout Cars run Ft Hayes 8x10 1941
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27th Div scout car 37mm gun Ft McClellan 8x10 1941
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t5887a.jpg
13th Cavalry Scout Car Fort Knox KY 8x10 1939
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2nd Armored scout car steel bridge Carolina 8x10 1942
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104th Cav scout cars mine field Wadesboro NC 8x10 1941
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240mm Howitzer M1 end view RR flat car 8x10 1944
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240mm Howitzer M1 barrel bracing RR flat car 8x10 1944
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...ot5400.jpg
44th Div 37mm gun crew Wadesboro NC 8x10 1941
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t5889a.jpg
3rd Army 75mm gun defends Lake Charles LA 8x10 1941
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t5893a.jpg
71st CA 3" AA guns beach at Ft Story VA 8x10 1941
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37mm M1916 gun & carriage Rock Island Arsenal 8x10 1928
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...ot5900.jpg
Light-directed Water-cooled 30cal Machine Gun 8x10 1932
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30cal WC Machine gun pit Ft Benning GA 8x10 1941
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3rd Army machine gun crew Louisiana Maneuvers 8x10 1942
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T4 Duprey truck-mount machine gun Louisiana 8x10 1942
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Umpires mark machine gun crew "dead" Tennessee 1942
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Infantry demo 30cal Browning machine gun 8x10 1931
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197th CA AA 3" guns defend Calcasieu River LA 8x10 1941
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3rd Army 3" anti-aircraft gun emplacement 8x10 1942
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Pre-fire check 40mm US Bofors AA Gun Aberdeen 8x10 1941
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Critical test 40mm US Bofors AA gun Aberdeen 8x10 1941
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40mm US Bofors AA gun just fired Aberdeen 8x10 1941
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103rd Ord wooden barrel 37mm Guns Litesville NC 1941
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AA Gun Fort Knox KY during War Maneuvers photo 1933
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Umpires judge 3rd Army half-tracks Louisiana 8x10 1941
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Pvt Blake 197th CA on BC Scope Louisiana 8x10 1941
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Infantry assault boat night landing Louisiana 8x10 1942
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Pvt Rowe 197th CA mans B C Scope Louisiana 8x10 1941
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War Games Recon by 29th Inf Fort Benning GA 8x10 1941
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6th Cav chow 3rd Army Menruvers Ft Benning 8x10 1940
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Pvt James C Finley 29th Inf Ft Benning GA 8x10 1939
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1st Army CA AA gunner Carolina Maneuvers 8x10 1941
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1st Army Walkie Talkie post Carolina Maneuvers 1941
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104th Cav motorcyclists Carolina Maneuvers 8x10 1941
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6th Inf 27th FA Obs Post 6 Ft Knox KY 8x10 1941
www.jumpingfrog.com/im...t5122a.jpg
Mech Cav Combat Cars night firing Ft Knox 8x10 1940
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Night firing Combat Cars Mech Cav Ft Knox 8x10 1940
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Field glasses look 107th Cav Ft McClellan AL 8x10 1941
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9th Inf practice load ammo C-47 Duncan Field 8x10 1940
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Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: Re: US Army AFVs from eBay

Hi Taranov! Hi Folks!

Super, thanks for posting all those links!
My home PC with cable was having problems with the first two pages of this thread, Sad