±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 563
Total: 563
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Downloads
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Photo Gallery
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: News Archive
26: Community Forums
27: Downloads
28: Downloads
29: Community Forums
30: News Archive
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Photo Gallery
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Downloads
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: CPGlang
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Member Screenshots
74: Community Forums
75: Statistics
76: News
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: News Archive
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: News Archive
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Downloads
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Member Screenshots
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Community Forums
120: Downloads
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Downloads
124: Photo Gallery
125: Downloads
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Home
129: Community Forums
130: Photo Gallery
131: CPGlang
132: Photo Gallery
133: Downloads
134: Photo Gallery
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Photo Gallery
139: Community Forums
140: Your Account
141: Home
142: Member Screenshots
143: Community Forums
144: Statistics
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: CPGlang
156: Statistics
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Photo Gallery
162: Community Forums
163: CPGlang
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Statistics
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: News
185: Photo Gallery
186: Home
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Photo Gallery
192: Photo Gallery
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Member Screenshots
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Member Screenshots
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Photo Gallery
222: Community Forums
223: Photo Gallery
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Photo Gallery
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Your Account
243: Home
244: CPGlang
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: CPGlang
248: Home
249: Downloads
250: Home
251: Your Account
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Home
256: Community Forums
257: Downloads
258: Photo Gallery
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Photo Gallery
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: CPGlang
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Your Account
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Downloads
298: Photo Gallery
299: Your Account
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Member Screenshots
306: Photo Gallery
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Member Screenshots
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: News Archive
325: Downloads
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Photo Gallery
331: Photo Gallery
332: Home
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Home
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: CPGlang
346: Downloads
347: Downloads
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: CPGlang
355: Your Account
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Member Screenshots
364: Community Forums
365: Downloads
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Home
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Downloads
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Home
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Photo Gallery
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: CPGlang
387: News Archive
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Community Forums
391: Members List
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Photo Gallery
401: Downloads
402: Photo Gallery
403: Downloads
404: Community Forums
405: Photo Gallery
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Home
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Statistics
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Downloads
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Community Forums
432: Home
433: Community Forums
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Downloads
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Member Screenshots
446: Community Forums
447: Home
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Home
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Home
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Downloads
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Your Account
468: Photo Gallery
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Photo Gallery
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Photo Gallery
480: Your Account
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Your Account
489: Community Forums
490: Photo Gallery
491: Community Forums
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Photo Gallery
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Home
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Home
505: Home
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Member Screenshots
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: News
513: Community Forums
514: Your Account
515: CPGlang
516: Downloads
517: CPGlang
518: Community Forums
519: CPGlang
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Home
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Community Forums
526: Downloads
527: Downloads
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Home
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Member Screenshots
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Photo Gallery
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Photo Gallery
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Downloads
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: CPGlang
562: Community Forums
563: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
New to me ~ T-58
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 908
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:25 pm
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

Bob,
Thanks to you and all others who've welcomed me. Please check Neil Baumgardeners' response for the two T25E1's. They were located in front of a HQ building near the Main Front at APG, then suddenly the fence "swallowed" them up (they moved the security fence to encompass that building) so being that they weren't within the Ordnance Museums confines, those at the Museum now would not have known them.
Years ago, I had a "falling out" with a Museum Director there about the M67 Flamethrower Tank which was being "dragged" around the M88 ARV training area, along with the many M48C tanks, M103 Heavy Tank hulls, and probably other items before I'd first stumbled into the area. There's no reason not to have at least one example of an existing vehicle on display.
Did anyone here attend any of the APG Armed Forces day shows? They were great. The main Front had bleachers for guests, bus tours of Munson Training area etc.
As for the M3 Lee in Newark, I never seen it. Was it on the Chrysler property? It may be the one in the brochure listed here" Pencader Heritage Chrysler tank Plant" just do a computer search on it and click it.
I lived in PA until 2004 (layed off from my job) moved to our vacation home in Lewes, DE in 2005, found job, transferred to Glasgow, DE in 2008, resigned from job, moved back here Feb 2010, found job last April so for now am living about 8 miles from ocean. On 2nd marriage (happily) both our children are grown and live in PA.
Of Possible interest are the following items: Oak Orchard, DE VFW- M48 Tank (fair shape), Ephrata, PA- VFW M60A2 MBT (fair), Millersville, PA VFW- M60A3 TTS MBT (fair), Christiana, DE VFW- M42 twin 40mm SPAAG (poor),
Elkton, MD VFW M42 twin 40mm SPAAG (fair).
Take care, Rick Eshleman
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:19 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

These pics turned up in a folder of mine with filenames that don't match the rest of my pics the folder....which makes me suspect that they aren't mine originally. If anyone recognizes these pics as their own, please speak up and take credit, or PM me if you prefer they be taken down.

"Our man" at the facility indicates he doesn't see any security issues that preclude posting them. Wink







Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:33 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

Which model is this? T-58? But wait, it only has 5 roadwheels????

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:23 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

- MarkHolloway
Which model is this? T-58? But wait, it only has 5 roadwheels????


Mark,
Those are two different vehicles. Bottom one is T58 (I believe). You can see six road wheels and I think the seventh is hidden. The one second from bottom appears to me to have interleaved road wheels. I have no idea what it is, but somebody will.
D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 908
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:26 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

I believe they are the T69 and T54E1. I was mistaken that the T58 was on the Tank road (these don't look like any of my old photos) I have to dig my file boxes out of my garage, there I have old lists of what was at APG.
These shots look like Boothby Hill Rd. area?
I have submitted a few photos from the restricted areas from 1986 (General Salomon permitted me to visit assisted by a public affairs officer) and some captured equipment in the 11th Military Intelligence BN who allowed me to photo items there.
Rick

PS: Years ago I sold my photos to various guys around the world. They would have been labelled- Richard S. Eshleman and did have my numbering system on back.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:35 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

- Rick_Eshleman
I believe they are the T69 and T54E1. I was mistaken that the T58 was on the Tank road (these don't look like any of my old photos) I have to dig my file boxes out of my garage, there I have old lists of what was at APG.
These shots look like Boothby Hill Rd. area?
I have submitted a few photos from the restricted areas from 1986 (General Salomon permitted me to visit assisted by a public affairs officer) and some captured equipment in the 11th Military Intelligence BN who allowed me to photo items there.
Rick

PS: Years ago I sold my photos to various guys around the world. They would have been labelled- Richard S. Eshleman and did have my numbering system on back.


Rick,
You are probably right. I'm pretty darn sure those aren't my photos, but don't think they are all that old, either. Look digital and I'm embarrassed to say I don't recall how I came by them. Hoping the photographer will see and recognize them.
D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:53 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

These photos are from the last couple years. The 'Mile of tanks was taken apart and stored near 'the warehouse' (Bldg 4501 if memory serves) about 2001. They sat there until a couple years ago when they were moved down to a lot on Boothby Hill Rd just outside the restricted area so that a temporary building could be erected in the parking lot where they had been stored so that other buildings could be torn down as part of BRAC.

Doug thought these might be my photos but I didn't take any of the vehicles when they were in the Boothby Hill Lot although I did take a fair number of groups on tours there and know several other members of this group who visited during that time (and took way better pictures than I ever did :-))

Oh neither have interleaved roadwheels. It is just the angle the photo was shot at. The suspensions are typical 1950s US suspension of paired roadwheels and a center guide track

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:50 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

Looking at the "properties" of these photos, they were taken in 2006. As I have some others from the big lot of tanks behind the museum with the same properties, I think they are from a Flikr or other public photo hosting account that might even have been linked on the DG. I don't think the photographer is a member (or at least, a regular) here. Might have been part of one of my "Google" exercises, also.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:32 pm
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

Doug, the photos posted above may be mine, but I'd have to compare side-by-side...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

- Neil_Baumgardner
Doug, the photos posted above may be mine, but I'd have to compare side-by-side...

Neil


Neil,
"Properties" sez taken with Kodak Z612 zoom dig camera. Sound like yours?
D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
newguy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 04, 2011
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:02 pm
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

I took my ait training at aberdeen in i think 1969 and the only occilating trurret tank an tank road was th T54 which was last seen in open storage behind the museum. It impressed me so much I took this picture of it. Id like to know if anyone has any idea of what the turret interier was like . The hull is obviously a patton.

_________________
pershing pro
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:32 pm
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

- Doug_Kibbey
- Neil_Baumgardner
Doug, the photos posted above may be mine, but I'd have to compare side-by-side...

Neil


Neil,
"Properties" sez taken with Kodak Z612 zoom dig camera. Sound like yours?
D.


Yep...
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:38 am
Post subject: Re: New to me ~ T-58

Thought they might be yours Smile

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum