±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 446
Total: 446
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Photo Gallery
12: Community Forums
13: Statistics
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: News
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Downloads
42: Home
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Your Account
46: Community Forums
47: Downloads
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Downloads
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Photo Gallery
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Member Screenshots
69: Member Screenshots
70: Home
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Home
74: Your Account
75: Home
76: CPGlang
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Downloads
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: News Archive
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Downloads
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Your Account
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Downloads
107: Member Screenshots
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Downloads
113: Contact
114: Member Screenshots
115: Community Forums
116: Downloads
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Downloads
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Photo Gallery
136: Member Screenshots
137: Downloads
138: Member Screenshots
139: News Archive
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Downloads
146: Community Forums
147: Member Screenshots
148: Downloads
149: Member Screenshots
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Downloads
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Member Screenshots
161: Downloads
162: CPGlang
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: News Archive
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: CPGlang
171: Home
172: News
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Member Screenshots
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Home
179: Downloads
180: Downloads
181: Downloads
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: News Archive
190: Community Forums
191: Your Account
192: Your Account
193: News
194: Photo Gallery
195: Statistics
196: Home
197: Downloads
198: Member Screenshots
199: Member Screenshots
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Member Screenshots
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Downloads
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Downloads
211: Downloads
212: Community Forums
213: Photo Gallery
214: Community Forums
215: News
216: Member Screenshots
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: News Archive
220: News Archive
221: Home
222: Downloads
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Member Screenshots
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: Photo Gallery
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: CPGlang
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Downloads
240: Photo Gallery
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Photo Gallery
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Your Account
252: Member Screenshots
253: Community Forums
254: Member Screenshots
255: Home
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Your Account
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: News Archive
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: News Archive
275: Photo Gallery
276: Downloads
277: Community Forums
278: News
279: Downloads
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Downloads
285: Member Screenshots
286: Member Screenshots
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Downloads
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: News
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Downloads
300: Community Forums
301: Member Screenshots
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Photo Gallery
307: Downloads
308: Home
309: Community Forums
310: Photo Gallery
311: News Archive
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: News
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Member Screenshots
319: Home
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Downloads
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Photo Gallery
329: Home
330: Home
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Member Screenshots
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Downloads
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: News Archive
367: Community Forums
368: Member Screenshots
369: News Archive
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Downloads
375: Community Forums
376: Photo Gallery
377: Photo Gallery
378: Downloads
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Downloads
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: News Archive
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Downloads
399: Community Forums
400: Home
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Photo Gallery
406: Photo Gallery
407: Downloads
408: Community Forums
409: CPGlang
410: Downloads
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Photo Gallery
414: Home
415: Your Account
416: News Archive
417: Community Forums
418: Your Account
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: CPGlang
423: Downloads
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Downloads
427: Community Forums
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Home
432: Home
433: Community Forums
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Photo Gallery
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: CPGlang
444: Member Screenshots
445: Community Forums
446: Member Screenshots

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:16 pm
Post subject: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Hello all, I was reviewing the AFV Register for all the "one of a kinds" (or even "one of a few") and "only survivors" in the US. So I thought I'd throw this out for discussion & insights, before I check my sources...

M2 Medium (Patton & APG): How many M2 mediums were built? Just these two?
M2 Light (Patton, APG, Hattiesburg MS, & Quantic): Just these four survivors?
M4 CWS-POA-H5 Sherman Flamethower (29 Palms, Jacksonville NC & Leonard Wood): Just three survivors?
M7 Medium (APG): How many were built - just this one?
M1918 Ford (Patton & APG): How many were built?
M1920 GMC (APG): Only one built?
M1922 Medium A (APG): Only one built?
M1922E Mk X GMC (APG): Only one built?
T54E1 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T2 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T4 Medium Tank (APG): Only one built?
T23 Medium Tank (APG & TACOM): Just three survivors right?
T26E4 Super Pershing (Wheaton): Only surviving long-barrel Pershing right?
T49 Walker Bulldog (AP Hill): Only one built?
T88 (APG): Built on M18 Hellcat chassis, only pilot built?
T93 SPG (APG): How many were built?
T162 GMC (Sill): Only one built?
GM XM1 (Littlefield's): How many were built, is this the only one?
XM723 (Benning): Only one built?
XM800T & W: How many were built of each?
XM808 (TACOM): Only one built?
Close Combat Vehicle - Light (Littlefield's): Only one built?
MTTB FMC Test Bed (Littlefield's): Only one built

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:47 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Neil - You've been on enough of my tours to realize you missed my favorite The M6 Heavy! I'm pretty sure the one at Aberdeen is the only one left

And M2 light at Aberdeen? It's not ringing any bells with me or is that the Mae West?
I also don't see the Cunningham on the list.
Is the Christie the T4 Medium

And if we are doing 'one of a kind' Sherman varients - What about the Calliope M4A1 is Aberdeen's the only Calliope left? How many DD Shermans are around

And then there are the T-95s There is one in Weirton, where else

What about the Vigilante (I don't know the T or XM number offhand) the 37mm Gatling SP at Aberdeen

There is also the Mk VIII International that is at Aberdeen (I'm told, I haven't seen it in years :-))

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:57 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
Neil - You've been on enough of my tours to realize you missed my favorite The M6 Heavy! I'm pretty sure the one at Aberdeen is the only one left


Yep, already know that one...


And M2 light at Aberdeen? It's not ringing any bells with me or is that the Mae West?


Yeah, the rusty hull behind the refurb facility. I should probably say 3.5 survivors...


I also don't see the Cunningham on the list.


T1E2 light, already got it - only surviving T1 light.


Is the Christie the T4 Medium


Nope, Christie is a T3. The T4 was the bigger tank (behind the fence now) that Rock Island built with a Christie suspension.


And if we are doing 'one of a kind' Sherman varients - What about the Calliope M4A1 is Aberdeen's the only Calliope left? How many DD Shermans are around


Calliope, hmm...

Oh yeah... DDs... That one's fun...

Sounds like questions for G104...


And then there are the T-95s There is one in Weirton, where else


Several actually - Anniston, Knox, McCoy, Wierton - but probably still worth a mention...


What about the Vigilante (I don't know the T or XM number offhand) the 37mm Gatling SP at Aberdeen


Oh yeah - the T249. Good catch, that one somehow didnt make it on the register!


There is also the Mk VIII International that is at Aberdeen (I'm told, I haven't seen it in years :-))


Yep, one of three in the world - along with Meade & Bovington. I have wondered what happened to all the ones that were sent to Canada...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:03 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

M1918 6t, number accepted up to Jan 31 1919....291 according to Crowell's America's Munitions
Hope that helps
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:19 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:















Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:20 pm
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green



Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:42 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now. If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.

But I thought of some more for you Neil

T-92 Light
RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)
XM-8

What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?

What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.

What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?

I'm sure I'll come up with more later

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:06 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now. If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.

But I thought of some more for you Neil

T-92 Light
RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)
XM-8

What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?

What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.

What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?

I'm sure I'll come up with more later


Okay Bob....you got me. Most were US...sorta Rolling Eyes

The GM XM1 in Portola Valley is the sole survivor that I know of. Not really sure how many of each were produced. I would guess around 3-5 GM's (might be wrong,....anyone??)

How about that 'Twister' thing?....

Along with the XM808T & W, XM803, M-1 TTB, and not to be out done, we do have that 'MICV' thing also....( A little worse for wear, but still present)

Now I gotta locate some photos...
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:21 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:




Sd.Kfz. 234-4, only one in the world?





According to Hunnicutt, four of each type (W & T) were built. The following are known, two of the Ts appear to be missing.

XM800T (Danbury, Knox)
XM800W (Anniston, APG, Eglin AFB, Knox)





Really all that rare?





Yep...





Only Sd.Kfz. 223?





Challenger VC47 - I'll have to look up the details on that one again.





Only one built, got it...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:24 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos
Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green





You decided what to do with those yet Don? Wink

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:32 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Neil_Baumgardner
- Dontos
Had to throw this in..... Mr. Green





You decided what to do with those yet Don? Wink

Neil


Yeah, I have a plan, but it got put on a back burner for awhile. They are safely stored and await my future plans. (Stay tuned)

BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:32 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart
- Dontos
Besides the Obvious, T28 Super Heavy, here are a few possible candidates:

(Pictures removed to shorten message)

Don


I thought Neil was only looking for American 'one of a kinds' right now.



Nope, any in the US.


If we start including captured stuff Aberdeens list gets a lot longer and we'll start with Leopold and move down from there Mr. Green And that doesn't include things that came from our allies.


Yep...


T-92 Light


According to the Museum Guide CD, its SN 3 of two built Wink


RDF tank (don't know what it's designator is)


I'll need to check how many were built...


XM-8


I'll need to check that one too, but I think there's a bunch of them actually (just not on display).


What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?


Good one...


What was that SPG at the Hampton VA hospital? Was it an XM-108 or something else? Which brings up the M-108 How many of them are left? I think I remember the chassis being converted to something else. How many were saved? Aberdeen has one in storage.


Another good one...


What about the M-12 SPG at Aberdeen? were any others saved? Or it's replacement the M-40?


Seven surviving M40s by my count... I think my totally arbitrary bar is 5...

M12 is definately a good one though... That cant be the only survivor right? Any overseas?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:37 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Dontos


BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don


You mean M1918? The Ford 3-tonner? One of two survivors (out of 15 built according to Hunnicutt).

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:49 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- bsmart


What about the M-22 Locust? How many of them are left?



By my count there's about 10 out there. It helps that some were demilled and sold as agricultural tractors (in the US) postwar. At least one in a reenactor unit was "restored" (fake repro turret) that from a former tractor.

Anyway, by my again arbitrary standard, thats a bit too many to be quite rare...

Similarly, eight XM247 Sergeant Yorks is a bit too many for a note on each one...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:12 am
Post subject: Re: One of a kinds/only survivors, etc... - Help needed

- Neil_Baumgardner
- Dontos


BTW: We Do have the M1919.... Perhaps another candidate?

Don


You mean M1918? The Ford 3-tonner? One of two survivors (out of 15 built according to Hunnicutt).

Neil


This...


Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum