±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 697
Total: 697
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Photo Gallery
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Downloads
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Downloads
22: Community Forums
23: Your Account
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Photo Gallery
27: Your Account
28: CPGlang
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Photo Gallery
34: Home
35: Member Screenshots
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Statistics
43: Home
44: Home
45: Photo Gallery
46: Home
47: News
48: Downloads
49: Statistics
50: Photo Gallery
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Home
57: Photo Gallery
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Home
64: Home
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Downloads
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: News Archive
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Photo Gallery
87: Your Account
88: Home
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Downloads
94: Community Forums
95: Photo Gallery
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Photo Gallery
103: Your Account
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Home
110: Statistics
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: News Archive
116: Downloads
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: News
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Treasury
124: Photo Gallery
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Home
138: Home
139: Home
140: Downloads
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Downloads
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Photo Gallery
153: Home
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Home
160: Home
161: Home
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Your Account
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Downloads
174: Community Forums
175: CPGlang
176: Downloads
177: Photo Gallery
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Downloads
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Home
235: Home
236: Home
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: CPGlang
246: Your Account
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Downloads
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Home
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Downloads
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Home
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Your Account
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Photo Gallery
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: News Archive
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Member Screenshots
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Downloads
300: Community Forums
301: Home
302: Home
303: Photo Gallery
304: Photo Gallery
305: Supporters
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Home
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Community Forums
317: Statistics
318: Photo Gallery
319: Downloads
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Home
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: Photo Gallery
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: Photo Gallery
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Member Screenshots
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Downloads
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Home
377: Downloads
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Your Account
382: Community Forums
383: Photo Gallery
384: Home
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Member Screenshots
392: Photo Gallery
393: Photo Gallery
394: Home
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Member Screenshots
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: CPGlang
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Downloads
409: Community Forums
410: Photo Gallery
411: Community Forums
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Home
420: Photo Gallery
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: CPGlang
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: CPGlang
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Member Screenshots
434: Community Forums
435: Home
436: Home
437: Statistics
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Downloads
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Your Account
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Home
468: Downloads
469: Home
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Community Forums
477: Downloads
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Downloads
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Member Screenshots
486: Community Forums
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Photo Gallery
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: CPGlang
501: Photo Gallery
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Downloads
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: News
512: Member Screenshots
513: Photo Gallery
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Home
517: Statistics
518: Photo Gallery
519: Home
520: Community Forums
521: Photo Gallery
522: Community Forums
523: Downloads
524: Home
525: Community Forums
526: Downloads
527: Photo Gallery
528: Member Screenshots
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: Your Account
536: Statistics
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Photo Gallery
546: Member Screenshots
547: Photo Gallery
548: Photo Gallery
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Photo Gallery
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: CPGlang
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Home
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Downloads
576: CPGlang
577: Home
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Photo Gallery
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Photo Gallery
591: Community Forums
592: Home
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Home
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Photo Gallery
602: Photo Gallery
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Photo Gallery
609: Photo Gallery
610: Community Forums
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Downloads
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Photo Gallery
618: Community Forums
619: Photo Gallery
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Photo Gallery
628: Photo Gallery
629: Your Account
630: Community Forums
631: Photo Gallery
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Photo Gallery
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: News
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Statistics
645: Photo Gallery
646: Community Forums
647: Photo Gallery
648: Home
649: Community Forums
650: Photo Gallery
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Photo Gallery
656: Photo Gallery
657: Home
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: News Archive
662: Community Forums
663: Home
664: Community Forums
665: Photo Gallery
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Photo Gallery
674: Community Forums
675: Photo Gallery
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Photo Gallery
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Photo Gallery
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Photo Gallery
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Your Account
692: Downloads
693: Photo Gallery
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Downloads

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:36 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Just been looking at some images of the Taiwanese CM11 - detail & angle is not good but judging by the way the towing eye is sticking out some of them appear to have A2 hulls...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:54 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Doug_Kibbey

*I go to Taiwan from time-to-time and have been from the North end to the Southern tip. There's a chance I could get a pic if we knew where one of these things was and it's not too sensitive a military area...and the Taiwanese can be pretty sensitive about their military areas. I'd sure give it a shot and I'm not without contacts.


I'm currently interrogating two ROC army guys by email - they can be a tight-lipped but not above dropping hints like 'examine rear of CM11'

Anyone any good at searching the archives on here? A couple of years ago mention was made of a company in Belgium being given a conract to manufacture 152mm rounds for Taiwan. I mislaid my reference article...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:54 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Alf_Adams
Here is a photo of a similar vehicle that I took in a storage compound of the Patton Museum in 1999. Unfortunately I only took one shot of it, so I have no more details. I asked the staff about it, and was told that it was just a case of the museum having an extra M60A2 turret, with nowhere to put it, and an M48 hull with no turret, so they put them together. Perhaps someone with contacts at the Patton Museum can tell us if this vehicle is still there.


I believe that is a shot of the M60A2/M48 combo that is now at Zussman Range (MOUT site). the tensioner 'pully' is the key.

I have not seen any such combo hulls (besides Zussman Rg tank) with that pulley present.

Great photo, Thanks
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:56 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

"The tensioner pully is the key".

We OLD M-48 tankers know that "pully" would be the track tension idler.

Wink
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:38 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- CaptCav
"The tensioner pully is the key".

We OLD M-48 tankers know that "pully" would be the track tension idler.

Rolling Eyes


Idler didn't seem right, so made up the pully name.

Comp Idler on 'modern' tanks tends to be in the front and is more easily mistaken as 1st set of roadwheels. Apoligies to the 'OLD -Timers' Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:50 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Dontos
Apoligies to the 'OLD -Timers' Mr. Green


I prefer the term "curmudgeon", myself. Evil or Very Mad
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

nice road trip, no traffic

1


2


3


4


5


6


7


8


9


10


11


12


13


14


15


16


17


18


19


20


21


22


23


24


25


26


27


28


29


30


31 What are these for??


Last edited by armyjunk2 on Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:16 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

It appears to be an M-48A1 hull - looks like it has the triangular-shaped driver's hatch.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:34 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Maybe it's just me, but the turret seems to overhang the turret ring more on the 48 hull more than it does on the 60 hull, looks "sloppy". I'm not at home to check the ring diameters, but I'd guess they are different?

Really noticeable in these views:





Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:37 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Funny you should bring that up. I was wondering if the M-60 and M-48 series had the same diameter turret ring?
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:44 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- CaptCav
Funny you should bring that up. I was wondering if the M-60 and M-48 series had the same diameter turret ring?


Well, here's a pic from 3rd AD (I think) Europe for comparison (not one of my own, but illustrates the relationship on the M60 hull). Better fit...
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:11 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

I think the turret rings were the same (85"?) the Pershing retained the 69" from the Sherman The M47 went up to 74 or so and the M48 went up again. I think the M60 was the same as the M48(Hence the plans to reuse M60 turrets on M48 chassis when the turrets were replaced by Starship turrets) But I'll have to check at home

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:20 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Picture 31 'What are these for?' Searchlight mounts

I think the Left Side Registration number may be real. Funnything is the Right Side one is the same except for thelast digit but appears to be a different application.

Notice the Right rear Fender marking "M48A5'?
I think I see the remains of Left rear Fender marking that have been painted over but I'm not sure

I wonder if the travel lock on the rear deck will work with the 152mm?

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- bsmart
Picture 31 'What are these for?' Searchlight mounts

I think the Left Side Registration number may be real. Funnything is the Right Side one is the same except for thelast digit but appears to be a different application.

Notice the Right rear Fender marking "M48A5'?
I think I see the remains of Left rear Fender marking that have been painted over but I'm not sure

I wonder if the travel lock on the rear deck will work with the 152mm?


Yes, Bob...that's the searchlight mount on the vehicle left side, slaved to the main gun trunnion. (you can see it mounted in the pic I posted)


Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Could the box on the front have been a hydraulic hookup for a blade or mine roller/plow?

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 3 of 6
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum