±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 761
Total: 761
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Photo Gallery
11: Your Account
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Downloads
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Downloads
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Photo Gallery
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Photo Gallery
56: Downloads
57: Community Forums
58: Your Account
59: Photo Gallery
60: Downloads
61: Community Forums
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Photo Gallery
66: Community Forums
67: Your Account
68: Member Screenshots
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Downloads
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Photo Gallery
83: Home
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: News Archive
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: News
96: Downloads
97: Downloads
98: Community Forums
99: CPGlang
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Photo Gallery
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: CPGlang
117: Community Forums
118: CPGlang
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Member Screenshots
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: Downloads
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Photo Gallery
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Member Screenshots
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Downloads
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Downloads
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Home
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Statistics
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Downloads
215: News
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Statistics
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Photo Gallery
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Photo Gallery
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Your Account
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Photo Gallery
233: Photo Gallery
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Photo Gallery
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: Downloads
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: CPGlang
253: Downloads
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Home
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Downloads
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: Your Account
273: Photo Gallery
274: Downloads
275: Photo Gallery
276: Community Forums
277: Home
278: Photo Gallery
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Statistics
284: Community Forums
285: Downloads
286: Community Forums
287: Your Account
288: CPGlang
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Home
301: CPGlang
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Member Screenshots
306: Downloads
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Member Screenshots
310: Photo Gallery
311: Photo Gallery
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Home
315: Community Forums
316: Photo Gallery
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Photo Gallery
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: CPGlang
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Photo Gallery
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Home
346: Downloads
347: Photo Gallery
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Photo Gallery
355: Photo Gallery
356: Member Screenshots
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Member Screenshots
362: Your Account
363: Photo Gallery
364: Statistics
365: Home
366: Home
367: Home
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Downloads
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Downloads
384: Downloads
385: Community Forums
386: Photo Gallery
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Member Screenshots
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Downloads
400: Home
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Your Account
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Photo Gallery
418: Downloads
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Statistics
424: Photo Gallery
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Community Forums
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: Your Account
440: Downloads
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Photo Gallery
444: Community Forums
445: Home
446: Community Forums
447: Your Account
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Home
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Photo Gallery
456: Community Forums
457: Photo Gallery
458: Community Forums
459: Photo Gallery
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Member Screenshots
467: Community Forums
468: Downloads
469: Photo Gallery
470: Community Forums
471: Photo Gallery
472: Home
473: Photo Gallery
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Photo Gallery
478: Home
479: News
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: News Archive
487: Photo Gallery
488: Photo Gallery
489: Community Forums
490: News
491: Community Forums
492: CPGlang
493: Downloads
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: Photo Gallery
502: News
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Your Account
510: Community Forums
511: Photo Gallery
512: Community Forums
513: Downloads
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Home
518: Member Screenshots
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Downloads
528: Home
529: Community Forums
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Community Forums
536: Home
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: CPGlang
540: Downloads
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Photo Gallery
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Photo Gallery
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Home
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Downloads
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Photo Gallery
575: Photo Gallery
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Photo Gallery
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Photo Gallery
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Member Screenshots
592: Community Forums
593: Downloads
594: Photo Gallery
595: Community Forums
596: Home
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Downloads
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Photo Gallery
604: Photo Gallery
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: CPGlang
611: Photo Gallery
612: Community Forums
613: Tell a Friend
614: Home
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Downloads
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Home
622: Home
623: Home
624: Community Forums
625: Photo Gallery
626: Statistics
627: Your Account
628: Downloads
629: Photo Gallery
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Photo Gallery
636: Community Forums
637: CPGlang
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Member Screenshots
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Photo Gallery
651: Community Forums
652: Photo Gallery
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Home
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Home
662: Photo Gallery
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Member Screenshots
666: Community Forums
667: Home
668: Photo Gallery
669: Community Forums
670: Photo Gallery
671: Photo Gallery
672: Photo Gallery
673: Community Forums
674: News
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Home
680: Community Forums
681: Photo Gallery
682: News
683: Community Forums
684: Home
685: Photo Gallery
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Photo Gallery
689: Photo Gallery
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Community Forums
693: Your Account
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Community Forums
700: Community Forums
701: Your Account
702: Photo Gallery
703: Community Forums
704: Downloads
705: Community Forums
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Home
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Photo Gallery
712: Community Forums
713: Community Forums
714: Community Forums
715: Community Forums
716: Community Forums
717: Home
718: Home
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Photo Gallery
724: Community Forums
725: Community Forums
726: Photo Gallery
727: Community Forums
728: Downloads
729: Photo Gallery
730: Community Forums
731: Photo Gallery
732: Photo Gallery
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: Photo Gallery
736: Community Forums
737: Photo Gallery
738: Community Forums
739: Community Forums
740: Photo Gallery
741: Community Forums
742: Home
743: Community Forums
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Your Account
747: Photo Gallery
748: Community Forums
749: Community Forums
750: Photo Gallery
751: Community Forums
752: Community Forums
753: Community Forums
754: Community Forums
755: Home
756: Photo Gallery
757: Community Forums
758: Home
759: Community Forums
760: Community Forums
761: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:03 pm
Post subject: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

Hi All...

It's a known issue for some that because we're linked to a site known for flight simulation ("gaming") that some folks have not been able to access our little home because the site is blocked by various filters for a variety of reasons. This can happen anywhere, military systems, business systems...I've had it happen to me when in certain airport lounges or the occasional business hotel. Roy Lingle was elaborating on his recent experience so I posed the question in the Moderator's Forum about what, if anything, could be done about site classification so as to exclude as few people as possible from access to the site and admins asked:

If I knew the rules of what is and isn't allowed, we may be able to 'help' AFV with a new lead in page using their own URL and domain name. I'm not sure if linking the current forums to the new site would be caught by the filters or not.

See if those effected can get a list of what's acceptable and we'll take it from there....


Roy gave us a few insights...can anyone else add to the discussion so we know how we can "insulate" the AFV forum from those filters that block some would-be members from signing on or accessing from certain sites? Any information would be appreciated! We're in the process of revising the site anyway and this would be a good time to implement such changes...such is the great effort the site administrators go to to accomodate the membership here.

Many thanks!

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:29 am
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

Bump....was really hoping for some input here, folks. We need some parameters that we can apply or delete to change our profile from the gaming sniffers that tend to filter and thus block our site from many servers for people who really want to get on here...or even just view in some cases. Surely somebody knows something about this stuff...si?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:04 am
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

Doug,

I know from personal experience I could not access this site from a lot of military networks. A lot was based on the individual posts policy letters, not a uniform across the board exclusion. Overseas was more interesting, depending on what camp I was at. Sometimes it's nothing more than a by name list restricting access. Ebay is one of the main ones always excluded. What I discovered in 2002 in Kuwait was I could not access them in English but if I did it in another language it went through. Al Jazera was excluded but we got around that by clicking on the Arabic language site when we Googled it. Couldn't read it but got the images, our 'terps would take care of the langauge barrier. The "Gaming" piece is what I believe causes the main exclusion for this site. We are always getting the speech on how certain activities suck up a lot of bandwidth and generally slows down the whole net. Games are at the top of this IAW our commo guys. In my very limited computer knowledge I think it's just as simple as these guys punching in a by name list of key words to block access. If there was a way to drop the "com-central" from the address might that fix the problem?

If what I'm saying sounds out there, remember, I'm very much like a person who drives a car but has no idea how it works when it comes to this stuff.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:49 am
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

I've been swamped and haven't had time for more than quick looks and sghort responses and this is something that won't fit in a short response well.

Having some insight into how sites are added to our corpoarte no access list I am amazed about how fractured the decision making is.

There is a general rule that web mail sites (gmail etc) are blocked as well as anything hinting at pornography, racism, sexism or any other socially senstitive issue where the display of such on an office machine could possibly offend someone. 'Social Engineering' (facebook, myspace, etc are verbotten also. 'Gaming' I believe is often a euphnism for gambling and is the reason those sites are blocked. Any site that appears to allow filesharing is definitly blocked. Defense contractors are being hit very hard by DOD to tighten up access to their networks.

That said it all comes down to the individuals who are setting up the block lists. I know of lesser known email sites that remain available just because they fly under the radar and don't get enough hits that they show up on the daily (yes the block lists are monitored and added to daily) traffic lists. Now if a site gets blocked there is a way to request that it be unblocked but agaqqin the amount of justification needed depends on whether you have to make the request 'official' or not.

I'm not sure there is any foolproof method of figuring out what causes some sites to be blocked and others not because there is no single set of rules. Sometimes it comes down to if the network admin is interested in military stuff or flight simulation and therefor takes the time to make sure sites he or his friends are interested in can get through shields. Or a network administration group that is interested in doing a good job and providing a nice working environment and taking the extra time and effort while still protecting the network from the really bad guys.

_________________
Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:56 am
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

- Joe_D
Doug,
The "Gaming" piece is what I believe causes the main exclusion for this site. We are always getting the speech on how certain activities suck up a lot of bandwidth and generally slows down the whole net. Games are at the top of this IAW our commo guys. In my very limited computer knowledge I think it's just as simple as these guys punching in a by name list of key words to block access. If there was a way to drop the "com-central" from the address might that fix the problem?

Joe D


Hi Joe...

I'm inclined to agree with that bit up there, and from what I understand, it just might be possible for Bushy to do something about it...including an independent URL trail that by-passes the Com-Central lead in. Roy did challenge the blocking at his site, and found even discussion of gaming was a no-no (since C-C doesn't actively game on site...you don't actually play here, though we link to some servers). There might be a way around this....
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

Hi Folks!

I understand the no video thing and I figured the gaming thing was just like that. Uses to much band width, but not being allow to even talk about games surpised me. Blocking gambling sites however makes a lot more sense! I guess the word "games" covers to many things and it is just easier to block all things that use that word.

There are times during the midnight shift that I have time, sometimes in small blocks, where I am waiting for work to come in and I would visit C-C (love the screen shot contest) and the AFV DG. I have found that starting about 0600 AM MST that the network starts dragging really bad due to the east coast and central time zone offices coming on line. At that time I get off and do some reading if things are still slow.

The new site blocking software is very odd. I like to check the news on AOL, Yahoo, and CNN and it blocks a lot of the links to the individaul news stories. I have been seeing a lot of the "this site blocked due to Social Engineering" and "that site has porno". I guess the news story has the word porno in it, therefore the story is off limits. I have a co-worker who likes to check the local Police Department wed site for the latest traffic reports so she knows if there are any problems with her route home. For some reason that site is blocked. The reason given is a string of numbers which we have no idea what they stand for.

For all those who are looking into this and can possible work out a fix, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:01 am
Post subject: Re: Access to AFV DG...site filters, blocking, etc (Roy!)...

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hi Folks!
For all those who are looking into this and can possible work out a fix, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Sgt, Scouts Out!


That´s what we´re here for, Bud....the admins at C-C are the most responsive I´ve ever seen. I´m just the messenger. Yer problem is my problem. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum