±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 660
Total: 660
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Statistics
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: CPGlang
16: Your Account
17: Community Forums
18: CPGlang
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: CPGlang
24: Your Account
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Downloads
28: Photo Gallery
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Member Screenshots
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Downloads
38: Community Forums
39: Member Screenshots
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: News
47: Community Forums
48: Downloads
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Photo Gallery
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Photo Gallery
58: Home
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: CPGlang
65: Your Account
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Member Screenshots
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Your Account
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Photo Gallery
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Member Screenshots
96: Photo Gallery
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Your Account
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Member Screenshots
112: Community Forums
113: Photo Gallery
114: Community Forums
115: Member Screenshots
116: Downloads
117: Member Screenshots
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Statistics
129: Community Forums
130: Photo Gallery
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Photo Gallery
141: Member Screenshots
142: Photo Gallery
143: CPGlang
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: News
154: Member Screenshots
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Your Account
163: Photo Gallery
164: News Archive
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Downloads
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Your Account
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Downloads
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Downloads
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Photo Gallery
192: Home
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Member Screenshots
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Photo Gallery
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Your Account
207: Community Forums
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Photo Gallery
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Photo Gallery
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Statistics
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Photo Gallery
235: Your Account
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Member Screenshots
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Your Account
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Photo Gallery
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Photo Gallery
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: News
273: Home
274: Community Forums
275: News Archive
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Home
291: News
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: News
304: CPGlang
305: Community Forums
306: Downloads
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Your Account
326: Community Forums
327: News Archive
328: Statistics
329: Downloads
330: Photo Gallery
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Photo Gallery
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Photo Gallery
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Downloads
349: Photo Gallery
350: CPGlang
351: Member Screenshots
352: Statistics
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Photo Gallery
360: Statistics
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Photo Gallery
364: Home
365: Home
366: Community Forums
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Photo Gallery
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Member Screenshots
386: Community Forums
387: Downloads
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Member Screenshots
393: Community Forums
394: CPGlang
395: Photo Gallery
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Photo Gallery
404: Community Forums
405: Home
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Your Account
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: Member Screenshots
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Your Account
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Downloads
426: Photo Gallery
427: Photo Gallery
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Your Account
433: Photo Gallery
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Home
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: Photo Gallery
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Photo Gallery
454: Community Forums
455: Downloads
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Member Screenshots
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Community Forums
471: Photo Gallery
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Photo Gallery
478: Home
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Your Account
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Downloads
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Home
494: News Archive
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: CPGlang
500: Community Forums
501: Downloads
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Photo Gallery
514: Your Account
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Photo Gallery
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Photo Gallery
530: Home
531: Your Account
532: Community Forums
533: Home
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: Downloads
540: Community Forums
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Downloads
545: Member Screenshots
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Community Forums
549: Home
550: Home
551: Your Account
552: Community Forums
553: CPGlang
554: CPGlang
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Photo Gallery
561: Photo Gallery
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: CPGlang
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Photo Gallery
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Photo Gallery
576: Photo Gallery
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Statistics
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Community Forums
587: Photo Gallery
588: Photo Gallery
589: Home
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Statistics
596: Home
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Member Screenshots
600: Photo Gallery
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: CPGlang
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Home
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Photo Gallery
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Home
622: Member Screenshots
623: Community Forums
624: Member Screenshots
625: Community Forums
626: Home
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Downloads
633: Your Account
634: Community Forums
635: Downloads
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Downloads
642: Downloads
643: Community Forums
644: Photo Gallery
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Downloads
649: Photo Gallery
650: Photo Gallery
651: CPGlang
652: Community Forums
653: Photo Gallery
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Photo Gallery
659: Your Account
660: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Tank ID 1940
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

It was the short-lived "Pentomic" division structure that had Battle Groups of five battalions, but one thinks that the bumper code should have a division number then the BG number, but somebody may have thought that it took too much effort and shortened it to "1st Battle Group, 66th AR".

Still an neat photo that shows the use of the "arm" for an external MG mount on the cupola. The mounting pad for the arm is why there are square pads on the sides of early cupolas and the external mount is why early M60 turrets had stowage brackets for .50 cals on the rear. The use of an M1919A4 is interesting. Maybe they needed to shoot blanks for a maneuver or demo - the .30 caliber was much easier for blank firing than the .50 cal.

Gary B.
Back to top
View user's profile
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

On the "snub nosed" .50 caliber. We are all used to seeing the common 45-inch Heavy Barrel on ground .50s, but there was a 36-inch barrel according to some sources. I though t that the 36-inch barrel was for the aircraft version, but was there also a 36-inch heavy barrel? I know the cavalry had shorter .30 caliber guns (M1919A2) for horse packing, did they also have some shorter barrel .50 caliber weapons?

Gary B.
Back to top
View user's profile
RKlaus
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

On the original photo:
The short barreled .50 is a stumper, don't know that I've ever seen one quite like that. The blank firing barrel idea does make sense.

Note also the .30 calibre barrel from the right hand turret, it looks normal, with no BFD.

I also note that the tank is named. On the forward diagonal hull plate you can make out the name "WILLIAMS" and traces of an insignia.

Interesting photo, thanks for posting.

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile
Chris_C
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 214
Location: WV, USA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:35 am
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

- toadmanstankpictures
- Doug_Kibbey
- MarkHolloway
I've been looking at the 'snub nose' .50 cal. What the heck is it?


Definitely a .50 reciever/barrel combination, but I've never seen a snubby like that.

That cavalry plaque on the turret side looks way too ornate for a typical service vehicle. I'd guess this is some kind of sale-of-concept image for army in-house use or as a proposal from a vendor.

Somebody here is selling something. Either that, or this is some extremely vain senior officer's vehicle.

It's actually a M1 or M1A1 Combat Car. The cavalry plaque was a standard fit during the inter-war period. Tanks belonging to the infantry had plaques with crossed rifles.


It's a combat car M1. The first 58 of these were fitted with a flat-faced, D-shaped turret. The remainder (and all combat cars M1A1) were fitted with an octagonal turret.

The shorter MG barrel may have been standard. Compare the left-hand gun in this combat car M1:


...with the one in this combat car M1A1:
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

I looked at my 1940 TM for the M1 and M2 series tanks and the short cal. .50 barrel is certainly standard. In the M2 MG TM of the same era it refers to the 36-inch barrel as "old type" and the 45-inch barrel as "new type".

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

Mystery solved,

Thanks Kurt

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

- Kurt_Laughlin
I looked at my 1940 TM for the M1 and M2 series tanks and the short cal. .50 barrel is certainly standard. In the M2 MG TM of the same era it refers to the 36-inch barrel as "old type" and the 45-inch barrel as "new type".

KL

Thanks. I'm always learning new stuff here!

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum