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Dontos Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 3436 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: Digging thru the Archives |
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After spending a full day, I picked out a few images that I thought were pretty cool, and might interest some of y'all.
I love shots of tanks 'Pulling Air', even some old ones...
A couple of 'OLD' flame thrower tests....
Moving into the 50's & 60's....
M48A2 firing a test rocket....!?
More to follow
Regards
Don
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Dontos Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 3436 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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For all you M551 Sheridan fans....
AND,....did I mention I love tanks 'pulling air'.....
Regards
Don
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Joe_D Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 2061 Location: Razorback Country
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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Great pictures Don,
That M48A2 picture looks like the French SS-11 test firing. During that time the Army was wanting to go to missiles since they felt they would be much more effective than cannons. This eventually led to the Shillelagh system. The SS-11 was at this time the best system around.
On the picture of the M551 firing. Is the resolution good enough on the original to make out the RN of the M60A1E2 next to it?
Man I envy your access to the archives.
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Dontos Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 3436 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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Ask & ye shall receive....
The M60A1E2 is RN 09A05667.
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Don
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Pzkpfw-e Power User

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I wouldn't have liked to have been in that Sheridan when it landed, it may be a pond, but I'd bet it didn't do the crews' spines any good!
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Doug_Kibbey Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 23, 2006 Posts: 4674 Location: The Great Satan
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I've done that sort of thing in a Sheridan myself. Typically, there would not be a full crew on board, and the driver has a lot of sand for doing that with the hatch open!
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Dontos Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 3436 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I've done this 'manuever' in an Abrams, several times over the years,.....generally the driver is grinning (till the mud hits him in the face...) but turret crew tends to be using a 'death grip' attempting to hold on, to anything, prior to 'splash down'.....
As a gunner, the results of several episodes of pulling air, have accounted for 7 missing teeth, a partially seperated right shoulder, nose 'realignment', and a couple of 'face hits' on the GPS.
Did I mention how I LOVED being a Tanker !?
Regards
Don
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MarkHolloway Power User

Offline Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 2054 Location: Beatty, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I agree with Joe that it's a Frech SS-11 missile. The Army did use these in helicopters for awhile.
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Dontos Power User

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I did 'stumble' onto a whole slew of M551 images. They range from testing to training, and even Ops Desert Storm deployment and the dreaded OPFOR at NTC.
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Don
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Doug_Kibbey Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 23, 2006 Posts: 4674 Location: The Great Satan
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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- Dontos
I did 'stumble' onto a whole slew of M551 images. They range from testing to training, and even Ops Desert Storm deployment and the dreaded OPFOR at NTC.
Regards
Don
Can you think of anyone who might like to get copies of those?
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Joe_D Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 2061 Location: Razorback Country
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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Don,
Thanks for the RN, She's one that has eluded me till now, Knew of the RN but never seen any pictures of her. Since you do have such great access, ya think you could when able copy down all the RN's from the M60A1E1/E2 pictures you come across? There's not too many.
M60A1E1: RN 9B3129, RN 9B3140, RN 9B4057, RN 9B4470
M60A1E2: RN 09A05667, RN 09A05767, RN 09A93869, RN 09A93969
The RN in bold I have no pictures of at all. It would also be great if you came across an RN not listed above. JK RN's are M60A2's so I'm not concerned with them. Trying to solve a puzzle.
We used to "Catch Air" with the OPFOR M551's at NTC, a lot of times unintentionally due to the infamous "smoke screens" or night missions. Broke two bones in my wrist and cracked my tail bone on separate occasions in those little beasts. Say what you want about them, but the hull/suspension system was tough as nails. Weakest link in the drive train was the "Flex-Plate" on the flywheel that would sheer if you did too many "Sagger Drills".
Mark,
That SS-11 set up looks very similar to the one the French Army installed on their AMX-13 for a while. Forgot about the Helicopter set up.
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MarkHolloway Power User

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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I was in the Tennessee National Guard for a year around 1980. I was assigned to Attack Helicopter Company, 278th ACR and we had Hueys with the SS-11 system even though they didn't make the missiles anymore.
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MarkHolloway Power User

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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- Doug_Kibbey
- Dontos
I did 'stumble' onto a whole slew of M551 images. They range from testing to training, and even Ops Desert Storm deployment and the dreaded OPFOR at NTC.
Regards
Don
Can you think of anyone who might like to get copies of those? 
Me!!!!
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C_Sherman Power User

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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- MarkHolloway
- Doug_Kibbey
- Dontos
I did 'stumble' onto a whole slew of M551 images. They range from testing to training, and even Ops Desert Storm deployment and the dreaded OPFOR at NTC.
Regards
Don
Can you think of anyone who might like to get copies of those? 
Me!!!! 
Well, heck...me too, if someone offers them! Gonna build one of 'em one of these days, once the kids are grown, and the house is fixed, and I'm not traveling for my rich Uncle anymore. (I'm thinking I'll have a weekend or two after I've been retired a couple of years!)
_________________ A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
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Dontos Power User

Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 3436 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Digging thru the Archives |
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Joe
I'll keep an eye out for anymore M60A1E2 photos & RN references.
As for more M551 images, I'll start a new thread for some 'select' photos.
(Note: My standard use computer caught a 'cold' yesterday. Trying to get it 'diagnosed', so in the interium, I'm using a different computer. It'll take some effort to back up/transfer stuff. Luckily I was prepared this time. No loss of photos, just loss of convience. Stay tuned
Regards
Don
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