#1: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:35 pm ---- Do you show an M59A1 APC at Russell Military Museum?
#2: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:34 pm ---- No, I wasnt. Do you have a picture?
Thanks,
Neil
#3: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:40 am ---- Look here:
I think its the T59 - Large vertical front plate & both hatches are at the front with engine behind - one of these vehicles was possibly reworked into the T117 with the commanders hatch behind the engine.
#6: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:51 pm ---- I remember we discussed this one before. Pretty interesting. May have to e-mail the museum.
#8: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:47 pm ---- Hmm... We specifically identified it by the smaller towing lugs...
#9: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:55 pm ---- I heard back from the museum. They said it was "M113 serial number 3 and made of steel". I thanked him and said it was possible it was originally T117.
#10: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:04 pm ---- It's clearly not an M113. A "steel" M113 is by definition a T117 (M113 was aluminum). See Hunnicutt's Bradley, page 78 & 80. But SN 3 is helpful!
Neil
#11: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:35 pm ---- I'd sure like to get a look at the data plate inside
FMC working in conjunction with the Kaiser Aluminium and Chemical Corporation, constructed the T113 with an aluminium hull and a Continental air-cooled engine. These two combined together provided the lightest weight configuration and afforded the vehicle with a superior ballistic capability. At the same time a conventional steel hull vehicle was built, powered by a water-cooled Packard engine. This particular APC was derived from the earlier M59 and was built because it represented a low risk option.
#14: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: JimWeb, Location: The back of beyondPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:11 am ---- I'd still like to see an image of the top of it - anyone going that way?
#15: Re: Neil-M59A1 Author: MarkHolloway, Location: Beatty, NevadaPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:14 pm ---- That would be interesting, Jim. Since it was single engine it wouldn't have been on the sides like the M59.