Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian
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#1: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Neil_BaumgardnerLocation: Arlington, VA PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:36 pm
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M13 - two different data plates, I only have records for one?



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I need some help with model identification for the following:

Fiat Ansaldo



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Lancia



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SABIF



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SPA



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#2: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:44 pm
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Second shot, the SPA plate belongs to an L6 (the Semovente 47/32 I guess), other plate in the same picture belongs to a second M13.

Thid shot, yet another M13... But dating back to 1942 most likely an M14 or M15.

Last shot, the SPA plate belongs to an AB 40.

Massimo

#3: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Neil_BaumgardnerLocation: Arlington, VA PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:37 am
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Massimo,
Which number should be considered the "serial number" or equivalent?

Neil

#4: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:07 am
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"Matricola" = serial number
"Targa" = registration number

Massimo

#5: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: giacomo415Location: Sardinia - Italy PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:19 am
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Hi friends,

I think this

SABIF



come from a boxcar or some sort of railway stuff.

SABIF was a brake manufacturer and "freno continuo", aka continuous brakes, is a system that used hoses connecting all the wagons of a train, so the driver could apply or release the brakes with a single valve in the locomotive commonly used worldwide.

Regards

Giacomo

#6: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Neil_BaumgardnerLocation: Arlington, VA PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:30 am
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Here are the numbers was able to pull off the plates by increasing the size of the original images (Photobucket shrunk them some).

M13 Matricola/SN 07006, Targa/Reg 4445

Second set of plates
Semovente da 47/32 su L6/40 (L-6-3) Chassis 54902
M13 Matricola/SN 01387, Targa/Reg 3521

Fiat-Ansaldo M13 Matricola/SN 03023, Targa/Reg ineligible

SPA plate ABM40 Chassis 47808

Neil

#7: Re: Ordnance Museum Data Plates #9: Italian Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:15 pm
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I am reading the last book from Daniele Gugliemi. He says M14's plates still used M13 as name. Nothing is mentioned about M15's plates.

Massimo



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