- TrevorLarkumI'm currently working on the Amersfoort museum, so far I'm about halfway (about 90 photos):
Location ID 11700: Cavalry Museum, Amersfoort
- Hanno_Spoelstra
Basically it is an M4A3(105) HVSS hull fitted with the twin diesel engine out of an M4A2.
HTH
Hanno
- Michel_KraussDo you mean the former Marshall musuem or Army Cars as it's called now :?
This T34/85 is not part of their collection any more for at least a couple of years.
According the webvert it's already property from 1987, this could be true indeed because various vehicle's at the former Marshall Museum Zwijndrecht location where on loan
Army Cars is the trading branch of the former Marshall musuem and does not own any tracked AFV any more.
Everything has been sold about 12-18 months ago.
Michel
- L.DelsingSearched for it in the past and didn't see it, but it seems someone removed some paint/rust.
The serial of the IS-2 in the Overloon museum; NC 12240334
- L.Delsing
- L.DelsingNever found it on a T-xx, I know that Soviet/Russian built aircraft have a plate with just the number. Not like the ''western'' dataplates with type info, date of manufacture etc.
The green one is serial 47229
Regards,
Lesley
- Michel_Krausswhat do you need :wink:
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- Sherman M4(105) at Ede;
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- TrevorLarkumAccording to Wikipedia.nl the Sherman at Ede was there originally. In the Netherlands register you have it as a post-war vehicle. Do you (or anyone else) have any more information on that?
- Michel_KraussOk, will try to explain why I listed it as post-war.
First the Netherlands were mainly liberated by commonwealth (Canadian / British / Polish) forces
Only some regions in the south were liberated by US ground forces, the US paratroopers did not have tanks so we can leave them out of the discussion.
Information source number 1)
There is a Dutch website called "Pantser.net" (dutch only) and there is a description of this 105mm Sherman.
See link posted below:
www.pantser.net/wo2-ca...M4-105.htm
According the information found on this website this version of 105mm Sherman was only used in for training purpose in the commonwealth armies.
Only the US forces used them in combat in Europe.
So based on the information that:
- the Commonwealth forces only used them for training purpose;
- the US forces did not liberated the city of Ede
there are 2 options:
- this Sherman came to the city after it was liberated. After the liberation the Canadian forces remained in the region for a amount of time and most likely conducted training. Toward the end of the war thet were relocated and could have left the tank behind;
- after the war it was handed over from stock to the Dutch army, being surplus
Information source 2:
I have (somewhere :oops: ) a short history about Dutch Sherman tanks, if I remember correct from the National Military Museum Delft.
In this document there is a short history where all Shermans came from.
To be short, all 105mm Shermans came after the war through the MDAP to the Dutch army.
So based on info from the website and the document of the Military museum Delft it is listed as being post-war.
- Michel_Krauss
The photo's I have are taken in 2010, let me know if you would like to have them.
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