Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:18 am- Doug_KibbeyThe M3 Stuart pic might have been a year or two before. It took me three tries to get a "sanctioned" tour of the whole post with the CO. Gate guards and even lieutenants don't want to take a chance of "doing something wrong" where a foreign national is involved. Strings were pulled locally and I got the $2 tour.
Some of the M3 pics were taken "at a distance" in the previous years (meaning covertly through the car window). When first approached, the guards didn't even want me taking pics of the M3 and M41, which are actually outside of the post gate. OPSEC, you know.
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:36 amPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:44 pm- Maple_Leaf_Eh
We tend to poo poo security as we focus on the vehicles. But many countries have long-running disputes with their neighbours. Foreign nationals prowling an active duty military base usually are suspected of espionage. Why else would someone be wandering around a base when the beaches have better scenery?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:05 pm- Doug_KibbeyThe M3 Stuart pic might have been a year or two before. It took me three tries to get a "sanctioned" tour of the whole post with the CO. Gate guards and even lieutenants don't want to take a chance of "doing something wrong" where a foreign national is involved. Strings were pulled locally and I got the $2 tour.
Some of the M3 pics were taken "at a distance" in the previous years (meaning covertly through the car window). When first approached, the guards didn't even want me taking pics of the M3 and M41, which are actually outside of the post gate. OPSEC, you know. :lol:
Somewhere here on C-C I think there's a whole thread on my visit there, you can probably search for it. I withheld some pics then at the CO's request because he was kinda' embarrassed about the state of some areas of the motor pool. I think it's been upgraded by now, and I know he was promoted and moved on up.
Rio Negro is right on the river (guess which one :lol: ) at the edge of the state of Parana. Immediately across the river is Mafra in the state of Santa Catarina. Colloquially, it is often called "Rio Mafra" because the two towns are essentially one, separated by a couple of bridges across a hundred meter span of river.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 am- TrevorLarkum[q
[img]http://preservedtanks.com/Albums/American/1250-M3%20Lee%23Grant/3157247376-b69450cdb8_M3_Juiz_LMCiuffo_c.jpg[/img]
M3A3
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:57 pm- Doug_KibbeyThose "light tube" things are a lot more appealing at night and lit than in the daylight... :roll:
- Massimo_FotiI am still not 100% about the info I have on brazilian L3 tanks. I have the strong feeling there could be more, not listed in the PDF.
Massimo
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:03 pm- TrevorLarkum
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:14 pm- Doug_Kibbey
BTW, with regard to tracking all these vehicles in Brazil, be aware that at least as recently as 2005 or so, there was an individual there that privately owned quite a number of former government Stuarts and other vehicles. It was a virtual stash that would be the envy of any Stuart collector, though few, if any, were in "restored" condition. IIRC, there were legal issues about anyone trying to purchase or return any to the U.S. I've seen a couple of pics of this collection and a wild guess from memory was that he owned anywhere from 10-20 vehicles.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:18 pm- TrevorLarkum
- Massimo_FotiI am still not 100% about the info I have on brazilian L3 tanks. I have the strong feeling there could be more, not listed in the PDF.
Massimo
I think I've found another one:
Location 37250: 15º Regimento de Cavalaria Mecanizado-Escola, Vila Militar, Rio de Janeiro
M41C, 2xL3
- I followed up the L3/35 in your Register and it certainly looks to me like the one I found in StreetView sitting outside is a different one to the one you list. Just click on the StreetView links if you want a closer link.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:28 pm- Massimo_Foti- Doug_Kibbey
BTW, with regard to tracking all these vehicles in Brazil, be aware that at least as recently as 2005 or so, there was an individual there that privately owned quite a number of former government Stuarts and other vehicles. It was a virtual stash that would be the envy of any Stuart collector, though few, if any, were in "restored" condition. IIRC, there were legal issues about anyone trying to purchase or return any to the U.S. I've seen a couple of pics of this collection and a wild guess from memory was that he owned anywhere from 10-20 vehicles.
I think you are referring to this:
Massimo
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:43 pm- Massimo_Foti
I think you are referring to this:
www.militarytrader.com...iscovered/
One of the tank end up in Switzerland:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4249113513
At least another one is in England:
www.flickr.com/photos/...6270470716
- TrevorLarkum
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:20 pmPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:53 amPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:57 pm- Massimo_FotiI think I already send you quite a good amount of shots covering the swiss Stuart, including pictures taken during restoration.
The collection includes also: Alvis Striker (on sale right now), Alvis Sabre, M5 half-track, BMP-1, M29 Weasel. All runners. The Stuart arrived also with a spare diesel engine.
I have pictures of all of them, apart the Striker here:
www.flickr.com/photos/...249113513/
As for the one in Bovington, you can grab my shots directly from Flickr if you like.
Massimo
- bialy-r
- TrevorLarkum- TrevorLarkum
I've researched this further and rewritten it:
Location 37850: Steindorff Viaturas, Panambi, Rio Grande do Sul
M3 x3, M41C x3, M5 HST, M4
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:35 pmAll times are GMT - 6 Hours