- vmmv1The Stuarts that were in the private collection have been sold and are now spread around Europe and the UK. I can post some pictures of when I moved them if anyone is interested. Marc
- Massimo_Foti- Doug_Kibbey
BTW, with regard to tracking all these vehicles in Brazil, be aware that at least as recently as 2005 or so, there was an individual there that privately owned quite a number of former government Stuarts and other vehicles...
I think you are referring to this:
www.militarytrader.com...iscovered/
One of the tank end up in Switzerland:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4249113513
At least another one is in England:
www.flickr.com/photos/...6270470716
- the_shadockTrevor,
I would be glad to get some photos from you if you are lucky enough to get access to the tanks during your visit (most of them are located on military bases).
I would be curious to get photos from the Sherman tanks too, especially from small hatches versions.
P-O
- the_shadockPlease note that "EB 11025" is a Stuart that comes from Brazil and is noiw part of the ASPHM association. Its serial number is 9995 (I was able to check it myself during a visit of the collection) :
http://www.asphm.com/projets/projet_m3a1_stuart_2/projet_m3a1_stuart.html
P-O
- TrevorLarkumI'm back from Brazil. I had a good time at the Linhares museum (350 photos), but was less successful at the army bases. At the first base we had a fairly unfriendly reception. At the second one we were nearly arrested, so decided to cut our losses and not visit any more bases! To finish we went to Sao Goncales to photograph the Lee in the public park.
I'll put all the pictures online as soon as I get the chance.
- Doug_KibbeyTrevor,
I'm sorry to hear that, but not really surprised, either. IME, there is a general paranoia about foreign visitors to military bases there and success is usually only realized if you have a connection at or near the very top (like the post CO) usually as a result of a referral from a current or former military contact. (I was married to a local and only got in when a retired officer and prominent local citizen greased the skids for us on a later visit...then everything was possible) This extends to even antique displays essentially on the the outskirts of the bases, of no possible security significance.
If you have occasion to visit Chile at some point, cameras are viewed with great suspicion at or near military installations as well. Oddly enough, you'd probably have a better chance in Colombia, though you can expect some thorough questioning and inspection, for understandable reasons.
- TrevorLarkum
The odd thing was that, according to my driver/guide, my request to take the photographs was absolutely impossible on a Saturday or Sunday, but 'would have been fine any other day of the week'! - unless I simply misunderstood what he said.
- TrevorLarkum
Unique ID 1595: M4A1, Linhares
P.-O., I'm afraid this is the only Sherman I saw during my trip, and I didn't manage to find a serial number on it.
- the_shadockTrevor,
this M4A1 was not manufactured by Pressed Steel Car, as stated on Preservedtanks.com, but by Pacific Car & Foundry. Here is a clear way to identify this tank as being a PCF-made tank :
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a1_pcf.html
You can see that this M4A1 has all the items that make it a tank built by Pacific Car & Foundry.
P-O
- TrevorLarkumMany thanks. Pressed Steel was the only M4A1 manufacturer in my database so it defaulted to that manufacturer, and I was not able to tell the difference myself. I've updated the entry (thanks too to your Sherman Minutia website):
Unique ID 1595: Linhares PCF M4A1
I've also added an additional photo that highlights the lifting eyes and tail light guards.
Can we go any further with the detective work? I'm tempted to suggest that the turret markings ("PSF 11/44") indicate that the turret was manufactured by Pittsburgh Steel Foundry in November 1944. However, that would appear to contradict Kurt's foundry symbols PDF which suggests that 'PSF' was used in place of a star symbol from ca 1952. It would also imply that this turret was manufactured some time after the tank and retrofitted (perhaps by the Brazilians).
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