- Neil_Baumgardner
Okay, now I am thoroughly confused... The above graphic shows only the A0s with the Patton-style turrets?
- Neil_Baumgardner
I thought all A1s had Patton style turrets, and that A3s had the crimped nose style turrets...
- Roy_A_LingleHi Neil! Hi Folks!
Patton-style turrets? Do you mean M48?
Remember, the name Patton is used with the M46, M47, M48, and M60 type of medium/main battle tanks. You have me confuzed now.
The crimped nose style turret was the number one change between the M60A0s and the M60A1s. The A3 used the same hull and turret as the A1s with a long list of upgrades. Many of them inside with only a few showing on the outside. One major item that stands out (if it hasn't been removed) is a wind sensor (something like 18 or so inchs tall) near the left rear edge of the turret roof.
- Neil_Baumgardner
Ugh, how the heck am I going to tell that from all these pics?... I may end up saying M60A1/A3 for a lot of these now...
- Neil_BaumgardnerThanks... In the interim, a lot of the listings are getting called "M60A1/A3." I'm waiting to hear back from Joe D on his confirmed A1s vs A3s...
I cant do it right now... But if someone wanted to go through the 159 pages of "tanks" on this link and pick out the A1s vs A3s... Well that would be really, really cool:
www.geocaching.com/see...e6cedf1f33
Neil
- Roy_A_LingleHi Neil! Hi Folks!
- Neil_Baumgardner
Ugh, how the heck am I going to tell that from all these pics?... I may end up saying M60A1/A3 for a lot of these now...
1. If you can see side loading air filters, it is an A1.
- Sabot
Items someone used to ID M60A1 vs. M60A3, like the side loading air cleaner vs. top loading air cleaner goes out the window when you see an early and late M60 with side loading air cleaners. You will even see M48A5 tanks with the top loading air cleaners.
I agree that side loading air cleaners will ID a vehicle as NOT being an A3. What I am saying is that top loading air cleaner can't be used to say a vehicle isn't an M60A1 because there are M60A1s with top loading air cleaners.- Roy_A_LingleHi Sabot! Hi Folks!
- Sabot
Items someone used to ID M60A1 vs. M60A3, like the side loading air cleaner vs. top loading air cleaner goes out the window when you see an early and late M60 with side loading air cleaners. You will even see M48A5 tanks with the top loading air cleaners.
I have to disagree with you Sir.
If we are looking at a vehicle that could be an A1 or an A3 and it has side loaders, then I think we can safely say it's an A1. A3s never used the side loading. A1s that were upgraded were switched to top loaders. Only A1/A3 types of vehicle that still has side loaders would be A1s.
As for the M60A0 early and late vehicles, that is a different problem. While they all started out with side loaders, I don't think we can safely use the filter box as an item for I.D.ing that version.
As for the M48s, the top loading filter boxs can help I.D. the A5 version only.
The side loading filter box should ONLY be used to I.D. an A1 that was NEVER upgraded.
Hope this clears up my muddy thinking about filter boxes.
Sgt, Scouts Out!
- Neil_BaumgardnerOkay, some more pics - this time is it an A1 or A3?
Neil
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