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Michel_Krauss · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi Bialy

Thanks for the link

Concerning the photo's I can get you picture's of the YP-408 at the following museum locations

- 4 at Harskamp
- 1 at Overloon
- 1 at Amersfoort
- 1 at Soesterberg

Michel

bialy-r · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

For Netherlands AFV Registers this link my help:

gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp40...vivor.html

The register of DAF YP408, it have many DAF APC in Netherlands.

If you Michel or any one beside you have good photos of DAF YP408, could you posted them (I want to create a register of them).

Michel_Krauss

When working through the various lists I found something curious

Apparently there are 2 types of M4 Sherman tanks that have identical painted on vehicle numbers

Now people may say, that could happen because they are painted on

Agreed, however both tanks are in the same museum

At the Cavalry Museum at Amersfoort they have an M4A3(105) Sherman
Vehicle number: 30126810

However they also have an M4A1(76)W E8 Sherman
Also vehicle number: 30126810

They are not directly in line of sigth of each other because there is an building in between, but the distance will only be about 400meters

Michel

Michel_Krauss

News flash

Lesly and P-O got an first copy of the NL register

Michel

Michel_Krauss

Hi Lesley,

would you also be interrested in an copy of the NLD AFV Reg??

I could use youre help sorting the original list Neil posted.

Michel

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Interesting, two Leopard 1Vs. I did know of one at Maaldrift, and another at Heesch of which this last I didn't know if it was property of the Delft museum. It seems I have to convince my boss that I have some business to do in the Amersfoort/Soesterberg area. At Soesterberg the vehicles are located in the old helicopter hangars on the Dutch side of the base. At the former US side only some aircraft from the air force museum are stored

Regards,
Lesley

P.S. Next week I'am at the Bergen (DEU) training area, if it is possible I will take some photos.

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Now for the guy's who are interrested in the depot Soesterberg

An link to the site (again Dutch only) however with picture's of the vehicles there

www.legermuseum.nl/leg...01071.html

For all my fans Laughing

below the text translate to English.
_______________________________________________________________
The warehouses for the new military museum in Soesterberg been formally in operation since May (2009).
In recent months many special vehicles have been brought there. The area is already well filled!

At the opening of the depots were plans for the new museum explained.
The new museum is a merging of the Army Museum in Delft and the Military Aviation Museum in Soesterberg, and opens its gates in 2013 on the former airbase Soesterberg.
At the museum the meaning of the armed forces in societies past, present and future is made clear in an innovative, public-oriented and interactive manner.
At the museum there is going to be a large outdoor area for exhibits and events.
The depot is in the last few months already filled with a variety of special vehicles.
_______________________________________________________________

Mr. Green

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Okay, I did some research today with an friend and we have not found the M22 yet, but we did find something else.

The Dutch Army Museum in Delft will close it's doors in 2011.
It will move to an new location, being the former (US) airforce base Soesterberg.

They are building there an complete new museum.
This museum will be an combo from the former Army Museum Delft and the Airfoce museum already based at the Soesterberg airbase.

According the plans it will open in 2013.

Because of the closing of the museum they started moving the vehicle's from various depots to an new central depot at Soesterberg.

There are some picture's of the vehicle's at this new depot and the M22 is not on 1 of them.
However there is 1 another central military museum depot at Maaldrift, Wassenaar.

So most likely the vehicle is still at that depot.

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

P-O

I have some additional information about the collection of the Army Museum Delft.
Apparently I'm still missing some of the bits and pieces there.
For example, they have 2 Flakpanzer Cheetah instead of 1.

Both sites listed below are Dutch only!!

First link is to the complete collection of 3D objects, 3D meaning everything that is not paper.

www.collectie.legermus...08237.html

Second link is about the M22 Locust

www.collectie.legermus...iatheek&q=

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

P-O

that picture make's me wonder about the list you have about AFV in The Netherlands Wink

Because an nuclear wessels on a AMX-30 chassis is not something that is part of the inventory in the Dutch museums.

Unless you are planning to exchange it for an YP-408, we have some spare's left.

Michel

the_shadock

- Doug_Kibbey

This approach will usually serve quite well....

"We are looking for....."

well,

thanks for the link

the only nuclear wessels I'm looking for, are these ones :

P-O

the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

P-O, concerning the M22 Locust.
So far I did not find the exact location of it, however this tank is part of the collection of the Royal Army Museum Delft.
And because it is not in the collection in Delft, it probably will be in one of the museum depot.
Even the M22 Locust website doesn't know where it is.

Michel

anyway it confirms 2 things.
It is confirmed to be in Netherlands, and it is part of the Royal Army Museum Delft (I was not sure about this).

thanks for your reply !!

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

The problem with most of the military installations in The Netherlands is that posting at the fence will not work.

The only visible part of an military installation is the main acces gate and maybe something that is passing by.

Here you have the fence and then they have planted half an tropical rain forest between the fence and barracks Rolling Eyes

And because The Netherlands is an very flat country with no hills or mountains, half the planted rain forest is enough to shield the base for curious eyes.

P-O, concerning the M22 Locust.
So far I did not find the exact location of it, however this tank is part of the collection of the Royal Army Museum Delft.
And because it is not in the collection in Delft, it probably will be in one of the museum depot.
Even the M22 Locust website doesn't know where it is.

Michel

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

[quote="the_shadock"]

- Michel_Krauss

I also try to see "what's inside" by looking "behind the fence" (sometimes the vehicles can be seen from the outside), but that may be quite problematic if a military asks what you are doing/looking at there..

best,

P-O

This approach will usually serve quite well.... Wink

"We are looking for....."

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Michel,

by the way, did you find the exact location of a M22 Locust "stored somewhere in the Netherlands" ?

P-O

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