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Massimo, as my winter hibernation comes to a close I'm looking to buy a wide angle lens for my Canon 600D. I have read your complimentary comments about your Tokina but I'd prefer to stick with Canon. Would this be the right one?


Canon 10-22 is very good, but it's variable aperture and "slower", you would end up using f/4.5 most of the times. Tokina's f/2.8 aperture would make the difference indoor. Vagabond uses the Tokina 11-16 and loves it too. Trust me, get the Tokina.

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With the Canon cashback the Canon would be cheaper - is it worth paying more for the Tokina?

Edit: There's an interesting discussion here:

www.dpreview.com/forum...t/33788683

In summary, they're both good. The Canon has a greater zoom range, and it's made by Canon. The Tokina works better in low light and produces sharper pictures.

I think I'd like the range of the Canon with the low light ability of the Tokina...

And if I went with the Tokina would it be worth paying the extra for the 'II'?

www.procamerashop.co.u...tAodsj4AAg

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With the Canon cashback the Canon would be cheaper - is it worth paying more for the Tokina?


Yes, since you are going to use it indoor. For outdoor usage, landscape or the like, I would go for the Canon, since the aperture wouldn't matter and Canon handles flares better.



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www.dpreview.com/forum...t/33788683

In summary, they're both good. The Canon has a greater zoom range, and it's made by Canon. The Tokina works better in low light and produces sharper pictures.

I think I'd like the range of the Canon with the low light ability of the Tokina...


Incidentally dpreview.com is a pretty valuable website, but their forum is mostly crap. But this time I agree with their conclusion Laughing

As for the range, you already have the 18-55, Canon's 10-22 would overlap the 18-22 range.



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And if I went with the Tokina would it be worth paying the extra for the 'II'?


Most likely not. Version II should have better flares handling and a marginally faster auto-focus. For ultra-wide lenses and for our static subjects, auto-focus speed really doesn't matter. Better flares handling would be nice, but it all depends on the cost. How much is the difference in the UK?

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The prices on that ProCameraShop link are the best I've found - £370 vs £418.

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The prices on that ProCameraShop link are the best I've found - £370 vs £418.


I think I would take version I, but I haven't read that much on version II, I only know it has new glass coating, so better flare handling. But I don't think the image quality would be that much different, if at all.

The risk with the Tokina 11-16 is that after trying it you will feel your 18-55 lens isn't good anymore Smile

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Ok, you've persuaded me - I'll look at ordering a Tokina.

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I realized just now that I missed to alert you about a potential problem. With lenses that have larger front elements, like Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22, the build-in flash may cast a shadow on the image, since it's not high enough above the camera. It's not a show-stopper, but it may hurt you in certain situations.

The only solution is to use an external flash.

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Massimo or anyone else, does anyone know of a site like Flicker to post lots of photos, by lots I mean 20,000 or more. Right now I have 4 Photobucket accounts, one that I pay for due to the large number of photos on the site. Some place free would be nice, does Flicker have a limit on free accounts? Anyone know of a free site for large numbers? Thanks AJ2


I just noticed that Flickr did some major update, they are offering 1TB space for free now.
About 500.000 or more pictures, just what you needed.
See: www.theregister.co.uk/...d_storage/

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With lenses that have larger front elements, like Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22, the build-in flash may cast a shadow on the image, since it's not high enough above the camera.


I have heard about that problem. I have plans to get an external flash but given how expensive the Canon ones tend to be it will probably be a case of lens this year, flash next year.

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I have heard about that problem. I have plans to get an external flash but given how expensive the Canon ones tend to be it will probably be a case of lens this year, flash next year.


It makes sense.

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Canon just announced a EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5–5.6 IS STM lens. On paper it looks like an interesting option for people that have the 18-55 or 18-135 lens and would like to have a wider option without spending too much:
www.the-digital-pictur...?News=9677

Price in USA is 300$. We have to wait for the reviews to comment on image quality.

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Massimo,
Thanks for tip on getting the Tokina 11-16 lens. I bought mine used (prices vary) on Amazon in time for my trip last December to AAF Museum in Danville, VA where I did two sets of photos, one with the Tokina, and one with my Canon 18-55. The Tokina worked better on the "no flash" indoor photos. My two Canon lens (18-55 and 55-250) work best outside, as telephoto lens. Trevor, for external flash I actually use an old Vivitar, that came from my 35mm film cameras of years ago. If set on a Canon flash, for economy buying used may be the way to go. Rick
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Glad you enjoy the Tokina. Of course at f/2.8 it gathers more light and work better in dark places.

Have you got used to handling the wide focal length provided by the 11-16? I mean, such a good ultra-wide may be very fun, but it can easily adds perspective distortions to your photos.

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Massimo,
Yes the wide focal length helps get the whole vehicle in the photo, and lens is good in lo light situations. You do have to learn caution that too wide will distort shots. Overall, a good lens in dark and cramped spaces where no flash is allowed. Thanks again, Rick
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Last month I got invited to see the Shrivenham collection and used my Tokina lens 'in anger' for the first time. I did see the problem of it casting a big shadow when I used the flash so I did most pictures twice, with and without. Nonetheless I think I do need to look to buy a proper flashgun, and Rick I'll certainly consider your idea of looking for a used one.

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