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Burgdorf (CH). Stiftung HAM
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:48 am
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Can't get the exact version of this M133 either. What's the purpose of those lights?

M113 Pz 63 M-73606 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Another command truck, again, no clue about exact model:

Saurer command truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Final round of question. What's the correct name of this Unimog variant?

Unimog 2010 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:04 pm
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Here the other Dodge still missing exact model:

Dodge M-75916 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


This is a WC-52. It differs from the WC-53 by having the front mounted winch.


Nope, it's a WC-51 (without winch). WC-52 has a winch. And WC-53 is a Carryall with a hard-top.

Here the details on wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ton_series

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Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:41 pm
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Here the other Dodge still missing exact model:

Dodge M-75916 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


This is a WC-52. It differs from the WC-53 by having the front mounted winch.
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I identified most Dodges over there. I am still not sure about this two:

Dodge M-75214 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


This is a WC-53,
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Another two tractors for Chris, yes, I took a look at the book, I am still not sure:

Hürlimann by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Here the other Dodge still missing exact model:

Dodge M-75916 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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I identified most Dodges over there. I am still not sure about this two:

Dodge M-75214 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:14 pm
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... here you can see a pic of the rear:
www.militaerfahrzeuge...._7_26.html

Correctly, no PTO as the tractors were used for towing guns and carriages. There was no use for a PTO.


Exactly, also note the enormous towing pintle. Thx for the other pics.

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... here you can see a pic of the rear:
www.militaerfahrzeuge...._7_26.html

Correctly, no PTO as the tractors were used for towing guns and carriages. There was no use for a PTO.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:18 pm
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Don't know the exact model of this tractor either:

Bührer by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


Looks more like an industrial (vs.) an agricultural tractor. These often found use in military applications such as airplane tows, etc., at least over here. A typical giveaway is the lack of a PTO (power take off) if you can determine that.

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There's a new book were you'll find all the correct names Wink

The Tractor is a Bührer Super DD4. The Berna is not a bus, it's a mobile office. Could be a model 1UP. But I'm not really sure.

Hopefully the brochure about most of the Burgdorf exhibition models will be published soon.

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