±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 762
Total: 762
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Photo Gallery
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Downloads
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Member Screenshots
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Your Account
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Photo Gallery
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Photo Gallery
53: News Archive
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Photo Gallery
57: Photo Gallery
58: Community Forums
59: Photo Gallery
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: CPGlang
67: Community Forums
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Downloads
75: Photo Gallery
76: Home
77: CPGlang
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Home
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: CPGlang
88: Your Account
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: CPGlang
96: Community Forums
97: Photo Gallery
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Member Screenshots
113: Photo Gallery
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Photo Gallery
125: Home
126: Downloads
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Statistics
144: Community Forums
145: Downloads
146: Photo Gallery
147: Home
148: Photo Gallery
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Home
152: Home
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: News Archive
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: CPGlang
168: Community Forums
169: News Archive
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Home
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Photo Gallery
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Photo Gallery
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Community Forums
195: CPGlang
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Your Account
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Downloads
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Downloads
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Photo Gallery
223: Photo Gallery
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Downloads
231: Photo Gallery
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: CPGlang
240: Your Account
241: News Archive
242: Photo Gallery
243: Home
244: Home
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Statistics
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Home
264: Downloads
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Photo Gallery
271: Community Forums
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Your Account
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Photo Gallery
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Contact
291: Photo Gallery
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Photo Gallery
304: Community Forums
305: Your Account
306: Photo Gallery
307: Home
308: Your Account
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Home
317: Home
318: CPGlang
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: Photo Gallery
333: Downloads
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: CPGlang
344: Photo Gallery
345: Photo Gallery
346: Community Forums
347: Downloads
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Downloads
353: Community Forums
354: Downloads
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Downloads
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Home
362: Member Screenshots
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: CPGlang
381: Community Forums
382: Home
383: Community Forums
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Downloads
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Member Screenshots
400: Photo Gallery
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Member Screenshots
406: Community Forums
407: Photo Gallery
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Home
416: Home
417: Photo Gallery
418: Photo Gallery
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Photo Gallery
425: Member Screenshots
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Member Screenshots
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Downloads
435: Photo Gallery
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Photo Gallery
444: Photo Gallery
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Photo Gallery
448: Community Forums
449: CPGlang
450: Downloads
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Contact
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Downloads
474: Photo Gallery
475: Downloads
476: Community Forums
477: Photo Gallery
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Your Account
488: Community Forums
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Photo Gallery
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Photo Gallery
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Photo Gallery
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Photo Gallery
518: Photo Gallery
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Photo Gallery
522: Photo Gallery
523: Community Forums
524: Photo Gallery
525: Photo Gallery
526: Community Forums
527: CPGlang
528: CPGlang
529: CPGlang
530: Home
531: Photo Gallery
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: Community Forums
536: Photo Gallery
537: Photo Gallery
538: Photo Gallery
539: Downloads
540: Downloads
541: Community Forums
542: Home
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Community Forums
548: Photo Gallery
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Photo Gallery
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Downloads
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Your Account
566: Photo Gallery
567: Your Account
568: Home
569: Member Screenshots
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Downloads
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Downloads
591: Community Forums
592: Downloads
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Photo Gallery
599: Community Forums
600: Downloads
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Home
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Downloads
610: Community Forums
611: Home
612: Photo Gallery
613: Community Forums
614: Photo Gallery
615: Home
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Photo Gallery
620: Photo Gallery
621: Home
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Photo Gallery
625: Community Forums
626: Member Screenshots
627: CPGlang
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Downloads
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Home
634: CPGlang
635: Community Forums
636: Photo Gallery
637: Community Forums
638: Your Account
639: Photo Gallery
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Downloads
643: Community Forums
644: Photo Gallery
645: Community Forums
646: Home
647: Photo Gallery
648: Photo Gallery
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Photo Gallery
652: Downloads
653: Downloads
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Photo Gallery
657: Community Forums
658: Photo Gallery
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Home
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Photo Gallery
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Community Forums
671: Photo Gallery
672: News
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Home
679: Home
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Photo Gallery
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Photo Gallery
692: Community Forums
693: Community Forums
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Home
698: Community Forums
699: Downloads
700: Community Forums
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Community Forums
706: Community Forums
707: Photo Gallery
708: Downloads
709: Downloads
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Photo Gallery
713: Downloads
714: Member Screenshots
715: Photo Gallery
716: Community Forums
717: Photo Gallery
718: Community Forums
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Downloads
723: Community Forums
724: Community Forums
725: Photo Gallery
726: Photo Gallery
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Community Forums
730: Home
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: Downloads
736: Home
737: Community Forums
738: Photo Gallery
739: Community Forums
740: Community Forums
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Community Forums
744: Downloads
745: Community Forums
746: Your Account
747: Community Forums
748: Downloads
749: Member Screenshots
750: Community Forums
751: Home
752: Community Forums
753: Community Forums
754: CPGlang
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Home
758: CPGlang
759: Community Forums
760: Downloads
761: Community Forums
762: Statistics

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress
A forum dedicated for the discussion of all kinds of artillery topics.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:04 pm
Post subject: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

The artillery collection here kind of surprised me. I knew there was artillery, but I wasn't prepared to the amount and variety.

This is an Hungarian gun, same design as German 3.7 cm Pak, using 40 mm Bofors ammo


4 cm M40 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

Very rare german gun from WW II


5 cm Flak 41 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

Massimo, this is a 40mm Bofors with an unusual (user fitted) shield. Specifically, this is a Hungarian Bofors. The 5cm Flak fed from the left side and was generally very different. I will post links to more pictures, with and without the shields, soon.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.


Last edited by Costas_TT on Fri May 18, 2012 5:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

worldwartwozone.com/fo...an-forces/ (scroll down to find it)

www.flamesofwar.com/ho...art_id=300

ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=6473

www.ww2incolor.com/hun...+1942.html


And now for the juicy part:
www.ww2incolor.com/mod...5_002.html

www.ww2incolor.com/mod...2_003.html

www.ww2incolor.com/mod...1_005.html

www.ww2incolor.com/mod...12004.html

www.ww2incolor.com/mod...12002.html

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

Thanks for spotting this, I trusted the Museum blindly... I just looked around for the 5 cm Flak and I agree, it's a completely different beast!

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

You are most welcome. It is a very interesting modification to the piece and I'd never seen it before. I arrived at the conclusion of its Hungarian origin by a process of deduction, assuming it was a captured weapon from WW-II and Hungary was the nearest country with a significant number of Bofors guns. A quick Google search just confirmed the hunch.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:20 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

There are other weapons of Hungarian origin over there too.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:36 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress


7.5 cm Gebirgsgeschutz 36 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:38 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

- Massimo_Foti
There are other weapons of Hungarian origin over there too.

Massimo


So I noticed. Wink


_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

There is a great assortment of pack artillery. Here is a classic Skoda 75/13 from WW I:


7.5 cm Gebirgshaubitze M 15 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

After WW I Skoda added a longer barrel. This version was also used by Yugoslavian Army:


7.5 cm Gebirgshaubitze M 28 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:28 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

We have been talking about the Skoda 100 mm howitzer and its evolution in the past. This is the original WW I design, used by the Austro-Hungarian Army. After WW I many were captured by the Italian Army and used up to WW II. Additional guns were manufactured in Italy too, named 100/17:


10 cm Feldhaubitze M 14 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:31 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

After WW I, Skoda kept the same basic design with a longer barrel. This gun served, among others, in Poland and Yugoslavia. Relevant numbers were captured by the Germans and turned to the Italian Army, where they served as 100/22:


10 cm 14/19 Skoda by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:33 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

It's worth noting that the 10 cm Skoda was available both as field and mountain howitzer. The mountain version can be splitted into three load and has smaller wheels (see the 14/19 above)

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:46 am
Post subject: Re: Belgrade. Kalemegdan Fortress

The original 10 cm evolved even more, once again with a longer barrel:


105mm Skoda D9 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

At the end of 1930s Romanian Army ordered Skoda 10cm mountain howizers (factory designation 8, 100mm L/25, analog to field gun M1934). Because of German occupation, this order remained unfulfilled. As a compensation, Germans offered 105mm Skoda D9 howitzers (L/24) made for Afghanistan, from the captured Skoda stock; having not a better option (all Europe was artillery-hungry) Romanians accepted the deal; they became M1939 model.
The gun still spots Afghan markings.

Looking at this gun allowed me to finally identify another two pieces in Bucharest that are in front of the Museum over there and not too easily accessible:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4595717860

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Artillery Forum
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum