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Pictures from Saumur - outside storage areas / ID Help!
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Who they kiddin'? I bet that was recovered from Vietnam in '54, then hastily painted over with that Free French thingie (and to hide the pink) and weathered to keep the secret and all us guessin', those conniving cheese eaters. We oughta' task P-O to get to the bottom of this, tout de suite. Wink



Nawww,

it was never ever pink- that should be the one that was sitting on a square in Gay Paree for decades, ever since the war... But maybe one of the others or even the one shown in Beltring? Must've been the sneaky Viet Minh who blew up the running gear. Cool
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Nawww,

it was never ever pink- that should be the one that was sitting on a square in Gay Paree for decades, ever since the war... But maybe one of the others or even the one shown in Beltring? Must've been the sneaky Viet Minh who blew up the running gear. Cool


Awww...you Fritz's won't ever let a 'Murican have any fun. Sad

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Just to get this back on track,

apparently one Panther was trialed in VN, but returned after a few weeks, confirmed by at least two sources, check the thread here on ML. We'll have to wait and see if Mr Touzin parts with more info in the next few days.

I'd love to see pics of the SdKfz 251 in country...

Cheers,

Jens O.
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Another AMX-10P (probably a more recently used demonstrator)





Probably an AMX-10 VOA (Artillery Observation Vehicle), because of the big thing on the top of the hull :


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Is this another VP 90?





This is a Hotchkiss HB-40, and the second one that we saw behind it (not on the photo) is another Fouga VP-90 :




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Neil,

make that "BTR-50 behind VAB" an OT-62, since it has two bow cupolas, the BTR-50 only has one.

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Neil,

make that "BTR-50 behind VAB" an OT-62, since it has two bow cupolas, the BTR-50 only has one.

Cheers,

Jens O.


The BTR-50 PU has also two bow cupolas.. and it seems to be more likely a BTR-50 PU for me..

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The BTR-50 PU has also two bow cupolas.. and it seems to be more likely a BTR-50 PU for me..

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Could be, although I'm missing some antenna bases- hard to say without a roof shot. Anybody know where it came from?
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Could this help??

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Could this help??

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BTR-50 at the Romanian Museum. Any help here?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:27 pm
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I'd say it isn't an OT-62 since there is no side hatch for the personnel compartment. The boxes on the rear are something I have seen in a BTR50PU picture. There also seem to be multiple antenna mounts which would indicate a command vehicle.
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Any help in this view?

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Yep,

judging by the raised roof it's a BTR-50PU at Saumur as well as Bucharest, thanks for the rear view, Senor Kibbey, I always wanted a photo of those boxes.

Not all OT-62 had side hatches, those were an addition sometime in the production run, IIRC- need to check with my Czech contacts.

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Yep,

judging by the raised roof it's a BTR-50PU at Saumur as well as Bucharest, thanks for the rear view, Senor Kibbey, I always wanted a photo of those boxes.

Not all OT-62 had side hatches, those were an addition sometime in the production run, IIRC- need to check with my Czech contacts.



I have that in oodles higher res if needed. I was woefully naive about this class of vehicle before Bucharest, but developed a crush on it at first sight, for the period it represents. It, or the quasi-naval version with the turret is the WP track thingy I'd most like to have a cherry example of in my garage.
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And while we're PU'ing, another handyman special that would make a nice mobile home for the Kibbeys: BTR-50PU on Military Recognition. Mr. Green
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